How 1 Man Survived Being Lost 438 Days at Sea

[john61ct]

https://youtu.be/vKMNZyJRhBg

[danielamartindm]

Accounts like this make you realize how much the tenacity to live varies from person to person. I wonder if the "insanity" and suicidal ideations that come over some when faced with such harsh and prolonged survival realities is a manifestation of "giving up."

[GordMay]

438 Days: An Extraordinary True Story of Survival at Sea ~ By Jonathan Franklin
➥ https://www.audiobooks.com/audiobook...SAAEgKruPD_BwE

see also ➥ http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ft-119846.html

[Red Sky]

Originally Posted by GordMay

438 Days: An Extraordinary True Story of Survival at Sea ~ By Jonathan Franklin
➥ https://www.audiobooks.com/audiobook...SAAEgKruPD_BwE

see also ➥ http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ft-119846.html

+1 A very good read.

[Paul L]

Originally Posted by danielamartindm

Accounts like this make you realize how much the tenacity to live varies from person to person. I wonder if the "insanity" and suicidal ideations that come over some when faced with such harsh and prolonged survival realities is a manifestation of "giving up."

Its the Stockdale Syndrome:

When Collins asked who didn't make it out of Vietnam[Hanoi Hilton Prison], Stockdale replied:

Oh, that's easy, the optimists. Oh, they were the ones who said, 'We're going to be out by Christmas.' And Christmas would come, and Christmas would go. Then they'd say, 'We're going to be out by Easter.' And Easter would come, and Easter would go. And then Thanksgiving, and then it would be Christmas again. And they died of a broken heart.[21]

Stockdale then added:

This is a very important lesson. You must never confuse faith that you will prevail in the end—which you can never afford to lose—with the discipline to confront the most brutal facts of your current reality, whatever they might be.[21]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Stockdale

[Red Sky]

Thanks Paul. I went to read the link...All I can say is, wow. I added the last paragraph of your post to my “quote file”. I

[boatman61]

see also ➥ Man Washes up in Marshall Islands 'After 16 Months Adrift'

Damn but there's some well liked and long gone folks in that thread.. Good old days..

[Singularity]

Originally Posted by Paul L

Its the Stockdale Syndrome

Or Man's Search for Meaning (by Viktor Frankl...Jewish psychiatrist prisoner in a Nazi camp who wrote about the factors relating to who survived...who didn't) or many other accounts through history. Escaping from the physical terror is bad enough...then the survivor's guilt/shame sets in (then attack from land-pirates in the case of the Salvadoran).

"Frankl identifies three psychological reactions experienced by all inmates to one degree or another: (1) shock during the initial admission phase to the camp, (2) apathy after becoming accustomed to camp existence, in which the inmate values only that which helps himself and his friends survive, and (3) reactions of depersonalization, moral deformity, bitterness, and disillusionment if he survives and is liberated.[7] Frankl concludes that the meaning of life is found in every moment of living; life never ceases to have meaning, even in suffering and death. In a group therapy session during a mass fast inflicted on the camp's inmates trying to protect an anonymous fellow inmate from fatal retribution by authorities, Frankl offered the thought that for everyone in a dire condition there is someone looking down, a friend, family member, or even God, who would expect not to be disappointed. Frankl concludes from his experience that a prisoner's psychological reactions are not solely the result of the conditions of his life, but also from the freedom of choice he always has even in severe suffering. The inner hold a prisoner has on his spiritual self relies on having a hope in the future, and that once a prisoner loses that hope, he is doomed."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man%27...ch_for_Meaning
https://www.amazon.com/Mans-Search-M.../dp/B009U9S6FI