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Old 06-08-2019, 14:07   #16
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Re: GRAVITY SUCK

Gravity does not exist, its really density.
Take a piece of metal and weight it on land, then weight it underwater.
The underwater weight is vastly less, because it is immersed in a dense medium the water.

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Sorry to tell you, but gravity does not exist. It is an unstable theory that has been incorrect, but accepted due to the lack of understanding of Buoyancy density.

The first thing you must understand, is that our air is fluid, just like water "Fact" not a theory.

There is the force of Buoyancy. It goes in 2 directions. Up and Down. People think that buoyancy only lifts things, but it’s the same force pushes things down as well

Density is the value that determines how much force an object should push away from other objects. air and water are fluids with 2 different densities, so they desire to be separate.

If you put helium into a balloon, why does it rise? If our air is fluid, then science says that it is bouyant force. It will rise until it reaches a level where the air is of equal density. then it will stop rising.

But. what if you breathe air into a balloon and place it under water. it will rise until it reaches the surface. There it will stop rising. Was it anti gravitational for a moment? No.. because the air inside the balloon and the air above the water are the same density.

Fill that balloon with water and it will force itself below the surface, because the density value says it must. Fill it with sand it will sink even further and faster.

We are dense compared to the air around us, so we are forced down just like a cement balloon under water. The ground stops us from going further.

There is a constant on the y axis (up and Down). This constant generates the rules for density. it moves at the speed of free fall on the y axis. when objects get closer to the speed of free fall (terminal velocity), everything inside of them loses density value, until that value becomes zero. That's why a plane falling at terminal velocity causes weightlessness. Did the gravity disappear? no.. The objects inside just caught up to the y axis constant and temporarily lost density value. So buoyancy between the objects inside no longer existed. remember. the air is fluid also.

Gravity is the result of desperate science with a mistaken conclusion. it should never have been published as fact or accepted as a force of nature.
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I know gravity exists and it's linked to time. The response of my body to this relationship is proof enough for me.
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Gravity does not exist, its really density.
Take a piece of metal and weight it on land, then weight it underwater.
The underwater weight is vastly less, because it is immersed in a dense medium the water.

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> That's why a plane falling at terminal velocity causes weightlessness.


False! On several levels for several reasons.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2598414/


And just to clarify, in astronaut training, the apparent "weightlessness" is experienced at the top of the parabolic flight path, not when descending.
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For given meanings of "law" and "wrong".


I prefer to think of Newton's Laws [no grocer's apostrophe ] as a simplification that is sufficient for most tasks.
You are correct.

I prefer to think of Newton and Einstein as different scientific paradigms.

BTW - celestial navigation is based on an even older paradigm - Ptolemy.
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WHAT IS THE CENTER OF GRAVITY?

The letter V.
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Gravity, it’s not just a good idea, it’s the law.
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Things being relative, much depends on your perspective and location.
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False! On several levels for several reasons.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2598414/


And just to clarify, in astronaut training, the apparent "weightlessness" is experienced at the top of the parabolic flight path, not when descending.


It’s before the top of the arc and descending until air resistance begins to slow the airframe. The “Vomit Comet” holds a weightless condition for 30 sec, which if you have ever performed that maneuver is one heck of a long time.
Used to take the kids out and “float the dog” with them, named it that from this video
https://youtu.be/yIHCim96qA8

The reason astronauts experience weightlessness in orbit is they are continually falling, it’s just the curvature of the Earth beats them due to their velocity, so they continue to fall, and the Earth moves out of the way
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Explaining gravity to mariners, be like:
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Actually, it really depends on what you mean by "understand gravity." In the context of general relativity, gravity is a distortion of four dimensional space-time. The larger the mass, the greater the distortion. Stuff moving in space-time travel along travels the shortest path, a geodesic.

Easy-peasy.

Now, in the context of quantum mechanics, which is the context the other three forces are understood in, then we have a problem. But neither can we understand these other three forces in terms of spacetime distortions.

There have been many attempts to describe the three forces in terms of spacetime geometry (string theory being a major one). And likewise there have been many attempts to understand gravity in the quantum realm (quantum gravity being the big one).

So far, no theory has managed a complete picture of either. So... the mystery continues.
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Gravity does not exist, its really density.
Take a piece of metal and weight it on land, then weight it underwater.
The underwater weight is vastly less, because it is immersed in a dense medium the water.

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Sorry to tell you, but gravity does not exist. It is an unstable theory that has been incorrect, but accepted due to the lack of understanding of Buoyancy density.

The first thing you must understand, is that our air is fluid, just like water "Fact" not a theory.

There is the force of Buoyancy. It goes in 2 directions. Up and Down. People think that buoyancy only lifts things, but it’s the same force pushes things down as well

Density is the value that determines how much force an object should push away from other objects. air and water are fluids with 2 different densities, so they desire to be separate.

If you put helium into a balloon, why does it rise? If our air is fluid, then science says that it is bouyant force. It will rise until it reaches a level where the air is of equal density. then it will stop rising.

But. what if you breathe air into a balloon and place it under water. it will rise until it reaches the surface. There it will stop rising. Was it anti gravitational for a moment? No.. because the air inside the balloon and the air above the water are the same density.

Fill that balloon with water and it will force itself below the surface, because the density value says it must. Fill it with sand it will sink even further and faster.

We are dense compared to the air around us, so we are forced down just like a cement balloon under water. The ground stops us from going further.

There is a constant on the y axis (up and Down). This constant generates the rules for density. it moves at the speed of free fall on the y axis. when objects get closer to the speed of free fall (terminal velocity), everything inside of them loses density value, until that value becomes zero. That's why a plane falling at terminal velocity causes weightlessness. Did the gravity disappear? no.. The objects inside just caught up to the y axis constant and temporarily lost density value. So buoyancy between the objects inside no longer existed. remember. the air is fluid also.

Gravity is the result of desperate science with a mistaken conclusion. it should never have been published as fact or accepted as a force of nature.
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Gravity, it’s not just a good idea, it’s the law.
And apparently very unforgiving - at least at home. No matter whatever good reason I have and any extenuating circumstances, it applies the same law over and over again. Some days I feel I shouldn't fall down but nevertheless I do.

Maybe it would be different if I left home (i.e. the blue planet).
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It's not the gravity that kills you, it's the inertia when you come to the sudden stop at the bottom. Without the inertia you'd just bounce back up. So in the case of the cliff leaper the title of the thread should be INERTIA SUCKS.

I think we can blame that one on Newton to.
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What if gravity is effected by the speed of time and what if time is elastic and dimensions exist in time not space and gravity is diminished as it is spread out over this time window and possible dimensions where the other forces are not connected to the passage of time.
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Newton's observations were not "wrong." They failed to explain everything in fringe conditions (extremely small, extremely fast, etc). Nonetheless, they still apply perfectly in 99.9% of the conditions that any human will encounter.


Whenever I hear people (so-called "scientists," especially) insisting that they have figured out all we need to know about something, I like to remind myself that, after all these centuries we still really haven't got a clue what gravity is, where it comes from, what causes it, or anything like that. We can observe and measure its effects, we can calculate and predict those effects, but we have no idea what it really is.
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