Electric Car Economics

[Marc1]

https://electricitywizard.com.au/wp-...price-2017.png

Check the above chart and marvel at what the renewable obsession fuelled by the fraud of CO2 is baaad, will do to your power costs. Australia is at the forefront of idiocy together with Denmark and Germany. Woohoo, up the greens!
Check out how much tax Denmark is charging the poor sods that live there!

[RaymondR]

Have you bought it yet Dockhead?

[Dockhead]

Originally Posted by RaymondR

Have you bought it yet Dockhead?

No, I'm still in London, and will be sailing in July. Probably do it in August.

[OldMan]

Originally Posted by LoudMusic

https://electrek.co/2018/03/13/tesla...arger-station/

The existing supercharger locations that would be used for long distance travel are within walking distance of restaurants.

Why are you so hell bent on having an internal combustion engine? It's just more junk to carry around with you and maintain when it's not necessary to have.

And yet my Honda Accord 2 motor hybrid weighs less than a Tesla Model 3....


The bottom line is cost. A Tesla model 3 costs $6k more than a Honda Accord Hybrid (Touring model - top of the line). Yeah, I'm told to compare Tesla to BMW, Mercedes, Audi, etc., not a Honda, but I don't buy into that snob BS.


The cost of adding a (slow) charger to my garage is another $1k.


At current gas/electric prices where I live, I would have to drive the Tesla 400,000 miles to break even on fuel costs. Tesla Model 3 = $3.25/100 miles - Honda Accord Hybrid = $5.00/100 miles. And put up with taking 10 times longer to fuel up, plus the frustration with not having a charging station conveniently located to where I want to be.


I'm not anti new technology, I'm against paying more for less functionality.

[AKA-None]

Well you darned people (says my grandfather back 100 years ago ) with your cars. You have to plan if a gas station is on your way. But my horse can get fuel from any pasture and it’s automatic so I can take a nap and it won’t run over any people or fall off a cliff. Oh, and it’s self repairing and creates its own replacement. So there you with your new fangled car thing.

[a64pilot]

Originally Posted by AKA-None

Well you darned people (says my grandfather back 100 years ago ) with your cars. You have to plan if a gas station is on your way. But my horse can get fuel from any pasture and it’s automatic so I can take a nap and it won’t run over any people or fall off a cliff. Oh, and it’s self repairing and creates its own replacement. So there you with your new fangled car thing.

You have never had horses I take it? Cause a horse is orders of magnitude more maintenance than any car.

[Wotname]

Originally Posted by a64pilot

You have never had horses I take it? Cause a horse is orders of magnitude more maintenance than any car.

And creates a lot of visual pollution that upsets some folks, has a limited lifespan that cannot be extended and isn't always responsive to the steering and brakes.

[Jim Cate]

Originally Posted by Wotname

And creates a lot of visual pollution that upsets some folks, has a limited lifespan that cannot be extended and isn't always responsive to the steering and brakes.

Yeah, Wottie, but you are unlikely to be breathalyzed coming home from the pub on a horse, nor get a ticket for no seat belt! They seem to have some advantages, but only come in open air models, so travel in inclement wx isn't so nice. Some are reputed to have built in "home to the barn" features in their GPS systems, but are not good at outbound navigation.

If the damn things didn't always want to step on my feet I'd keep one in the lazarette!

Jim

[IslandHopper]

Originally Posted by Jim Cate

Yeah, Wottie, but you are unlikely to be breathalyzed coming home from the pub on a horse, nor get a ticket for no seat belt! They seem to have some advantages, but only come in open air models, so travel in inclement wx isn't so nice. Some are reputed to have built in "home to the barn" features in their GPS systems, but are not good at outbound navigation.

If the damn things didn't always want to step on my feet I'd keep one in the lazarette!

Jim

No doubt this young Lady would disagree with you

https://www.theguardian.com/australi...se-while-drunk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=5TYqo7NFZXQ

[Wotname]

Originally Posted by Jim Cate

Yeah, Wottie, but you are unlikely to be breathalyzed coming home from the pub on a horse, nor get a ticket for no seat belt! They seem to have some advantages, but only come in open air models, so travel in inclement wx isn't so nice. Some are reputed to have built in "home to the barn" features in their GPS systems, but are not good at outbound navigation.

If the damn things didn't always want to step on my feet I'd keep one in the lazarette!

Jim

I concur with all the above points except the first one!

Direct from the Qld wallopers own site:
She was charged with being in charge of a horse while under the influence of liquor.
Note this is June 2018. See https://mypolice.qld.gov.au/news/201...rrested-logan/

Numerous other examples exist in other Oz states, the UK, Canada and USA . I dunno about NZ

But I wonder if they need a PFD in the dinghy.

[Wotname]

Originally Posted by IslandHopper

No doubt this young Lady would disagree with you

https://www.theguardian.com/australi...se-while-drunk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=5TYqo7NFZXQ

51 - you are such a smooth talker

[a64pilot]

When driving around the inner part of Florida, say high springs area as an example, when you see Jim Bob on his lawnmower or a golf cart, he has lost his license due to drunk driving almost certainly.
Operating a horse while intoxicated is silly, if you can catch it, and saddle it up, mount it and not fall off, your not real drunk 🥴

[Lake-Effect]

I think that we're underestimating the horse's historic position as the first widely-used autonomous transport. If you were drunk but managed to mount up, it will take you home.


Countless movies can't be wrong, can they?

[valhalla360]

Originally Posted by Wotname

And creates a lot of visual pollution that upsets some folks, has a limited lifespan that cannot be extended and isn't always responsive to the steering and brakes.

And if you get the equivalent to a flat tire...the solution is to put a slug into the engine computer.

[a64pilot]

Originally Posted by Lake-Effect

I think that we're underestimating the horse's historic position as the first widely-used autonomous transport. If you were drunk but managed to mount up, it will take you home.


Countless movies can't be wrong, can they?

Every one I have ever had had a barn mode, as soon as they knew we were headed back they would speed up.
Pony I had as a kid would follow me like a dog, go over to a kids house and just get off he would stand around while we played, and if we walked over to another kids house, he would follow.
But yes, they all knew where home was. They aren’t very smart, but they know how to go home.