COP26 - the Glasgow Climate Summit

[wyb2]

Originally Posted by Ericson38

Temperatures in the Pacific Northwest have varied considerably in the last 12K years. Here is a glacier study (2013) that documents tree stumps found under the ice pack showing evidence of mountain tree stands that were prevalent in an area, and then taken over by glacier advance, then later retreat. On figure 2-4, the little ice age (LIA) in the 1840s clearly shows up too.

http://dspace.library.uvic.ca:8080/b...=1&isAllowed=y

Your link doesn’t work for me, but I noticed it’s from University of Victoria. Maybe try this one:

https://www.uvic.ca/research-innovat...lity/index.php

“Human impacts on the environment have accelerated on a devastating scale.”

Originally Posted by Ericson38

Climate changes all the time...

Since we are doing comics now:

https://xkcd.com/1732/

It actually shows the ‘little ice age’ you mentioned… to scale.

[Ericson38]

How did temperature swings occur prior without human generated C02 ?

Did C02 naturally increase and then decrease in the figure referenced (2-4) ?

[mat jam]

Prof from U of Melbourne and importantly a geologist talking at a function in the UK. There is a reason geologists never get invited to climate talks as they would reveal too many inconvenient truths

https://bitchute.com/video/y4Ordy4NEgp9/

I take it none of you have a background in this like i do? Any geologists here? And stop talking science cause there is none here except religious alarmist nonsense. The same alarmists on a number of threads all screaming their nonsense based on being ignorant without any background on the subjects.

[Reefmagnet]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

But, what if I haven't "bought into", oh you know... science, and research, and verified knowledge, and expertise... all because I know better than actual climate scientists .

This is the same argument we see playing itself out over Covid-19. When did so many CFers become so anti-science?!?

I'd suggest progressively over the last quarter of a century as the mass hysteria, caused by a select few, subsides as a result of numerous "tipping points" that have come to nought and where every weather event since 23rd June 1988 has been portrayed as some kind of climatic disaster in progress whilst all the while humanity prospers, nothing has become extinct exclusively because of climate change and we're all still enjoying our summer holidays.


Maybe other stuff, too.

[Reefmagnet]

Originally Posted by wyb2

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Since we are doing comics now:

https://xkcd.com/1732/

It actually shows the ‘little ice age’ you mentioned… to scale.

Alarmist strategy #1: Refer to the make believe future like it already happened.


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[Lake-Effect]

Originally Posted by Reefmagnet

I'd suggest progressively over the last quarter of a century as the mass hysteria, caused by a select few, subsides as a result of numerous "tipping points" that have come to nought and where every weather event since 23rd June 1988 has been portrayed as some kind of climatic disaster in progress whilst all the while humanity prospers, nothing has become extinct exclusively because of climate change and we're all still enjoying our summer holidays.

Maybe other stuff, too.

Maybe just your coal investments, and your seething hatred for environmental activism.

[wyb2]

Originally Posted by Ericson38

How did temperature swings occur prior without human generated C02 ?

Did C02 naturally increase and then decrease in the figure referenced (2-4) ?

Maybe your link is working for others, but it has yet to load for me.

But even without seeing figure 2-4, my guess would be that regional average temperatures don’t necessarily track directly with global average temperature, as they can be affected by local factors (like changing ocean currents).

[wyb2]

Originally Posted by Reefmagnet

Alarmist strategy #1: Refer to the make believe future like it already happened.
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Present day (it was created in 2016) is clearly labeled. You can cover up the projections with tour thumb if you want to see it without them considering they take up 0.3% of the graphic. The point is pretty clear without them.

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by mat jam

Prof from U of Melbourne and importantly a geologist talking at a function in the UK. There is a reason geologists never get invited to climate talks as they would reveal too many inconvenient truths

https://bitchute.com/video/y4Ordy4NEgp9/

I take it none of you have a background in this like i do? Any geologists here? And stop talking science cause there is none here except religious alarmist nonsense. The same alarmists on a number of threads all screaming their nonsense based on being ignorant without any background on the subjects.

Richard Alley is a geologist who is frequently invited to speak at conferences.
https://youtu.be/ujkcTZZlikg



Geological Society of London Scientific Statement: what the geological record tells us about our present and future climate

The geological record provides powerful evidence that atmospheric CO2 concentrations drive climate change, and supports multiple lines of evidence that greenhouse gases emitted by human activities are altering the Earth's climate. Moreover, the amount of anthropogenic greenhouse gases already in the atmosphere means that Earth is committed to a certain degree of warming. As the Earth's climate changes due to the burning of fossil fuels and changes in land-use, the planet we live on will experience further changes that will have increasingly drastic effects on human societies. An assessment of past climate changes helps to inform policy decisions regarding future climate change. Earth scientists will also have an important role to play in the delivery of any policies aimed at limiting future climate change.

https://jgs.lyellcollection.org/cont.../1/jgs2020-239

Position statements from other professional geoscience associations.

https://seg.org/About-SEG/Climate-Change

https://www.geosociety.org/gsa/posit...osition10.aspx

https://www.agu.org/Share-and-Advoca...sition_Climate

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by Ericson38

How did temperature swings occur prior without human generated C02 ?

Did C02 naturally increase and then decrease in the figure referenced (2-4) ?

Milankovitch cycles were the long term initial drivers of CO2 and climate change. They would start a warming cycle which would release CO2 and start a feedback.

We no longer need Milankovitch cycles to start the process; we did it all by ourselves by emitting 1.5 trillion tonnes if CO2 over the past 2.5 centuries by burning fossil fuels.

Currently Milankovitch cycles would have us in a cooling phase. WE are warming.

https://climate.nasa.gov/ask-nasa-cl...rrent-warming/

[wyb2]

Originally Posted by mat jam

Prof from U of Melbourne and importantly a geologist talking at a function in the UK. There is a reason geologists never get invited to climate talks as they would reveal too many inconvenient truths

https://bitchute.com/video/y4Ordy4NEgp9/

I take it none of you have a background in this like i do? Any geologists here? And stop talking science cause there is none here except religious alarmist nonsense. The same alarmists on a number of threads all screaming their nonsense based on being ignorant without any background on the subjects.

Your profession disagrees.

The Geological Society of America

https://www.geosociety.org/gsa/posit...osition10.aspx

American Institute of Professional Geologists

https://aipg.org/page/PositionStatem...=%22climate%22

American Geosciences Institute

https://www.americangeosciences.org/...climate-change

Edit: jackdale beat me to it with even more links.

[mat jam]

Jackdale

Your quotes mean nothing!

"Earth is committed to a certain degree of warming" - WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?

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If you read your quotes they say nothing. They can mean the earth is warming (because of the cycle we are in) blah, blah... Without figures they are meaningless and without context meaningless. You are scraping the barrel. What is your background? No need. I already know!

[wyb2]

Originally Posted by mat jam

Jackdale

Your quotes mean nothing!

"Earth is committed to a certain degree of warming" - WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?

1.O
O.1
O.O1
O.OO1
O.OOO1
...

If you read your quotes they say nothing. They can mean the earth is warming (because of the cycle we are in) blah, blah... Without figures they are meaningless and without context meaningless. You are scraping the barrel. What is your background? No need. I already know!

“People don’t listen to geologists!”

-posts links to statements from geological organizations-

“Your quotes mean nothing!”

Obvious troll is obvious.

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by mat jam

If you read your quotes they say nothing. They can mean the earth is warming (because of the cycle we are in) blah, blah... Without figures they are meaningless and without context meaningless. You are scraping the barrel. What is your background? No need. I already know!

They all support AGW. No professional association or scientific institution in any country on the entire planet disputes AGW.
GSA

Human-induced increases in greenhouse gases, especially CO2, are the main drivers of recent global warming. Sound public policy and successful climate change mitigation and adaptation require scientifically validated assessment of current and future climate impacts.

SEG

SEG joins nearly 200 other scientific societies worldwide and the U.S. National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine in agreement with the IPCC that significant action should be taken as soon as possible to begin reducing GHG emissions.

AGU

"Human activities are changing Earth’s climate, causing increasingly disruptive societal and ecological impacts. Such impacts are creating hardships and suffering now, and they will continue to do so into the future - in ways expected as well as potentially unforeseen. To limit these impacts, the world’s nations have agreed to hold the increase in global average temperature to well below 2°C (3.6°F) above pre-industrial levels."

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by mat jam

Jackdale

Your quotes mean nothing!

"Earth is committed to a certain degree of warming" - WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?

1.O
O.1
O.O1
O.OO1
O.OOO1
...

Did you bother to read the entire GSL statement before you posted?.