A call for mod action and user restraint

[sailorboy1]

This thread has entertainment value, which some try to ruin by thinking it really matters.

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by Paul L

No need to tell me not to read them. That would be stepping over the PC bounds.

Nowhere have I told you to Stop reading them.. I have however suggested that like me you stop visiting them once they have gone past OP purpose.. else you become part of the problem your complaining about..
EG; Climate Change.. Once folks start posting links and copy n pastes I switch off..
I make my judgements on what's been going on through my 1 millisecond of life on the planet and historical evidence not computer models.. erosion being called sea level rises and examples of flood disasters that have always happened.
The same with the latest greatest anchor threads when the Utube beach tests start popping up with their near horizontal pull in good sand.. a waste of time from my viewpoint but I accept this kind of evidence is crucial for many..
You are your own best censor..

[sailorboy1]

Originally Posted by boatman61

You are your own best censor..

I’m not! Which has been pointed out to me numerous times. I bet I am not alone on this.

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by sailorboy1

I’m not! Which has been pointed out to me numerous times. I bet I am not alone on this.

I was referring to what you want to see... love horror, watch horror.. Hate it then don't..
Creating horror is something else and for the censors to rate accordingly..

[Reefmagnet]

Originally Posted by StuM

That presupposes that the climate is changing "rapidly" in comparison to previous changes.



That's probably the first "fact-based discussion" that should occur.

Well in all fairness, the climate has changed a lot in the past 6 months where most people live.

[250224]

Originally Posted by sailorboy1

This thread has entertainment value, which some try to ruin by thinking it really matters.

I don't know what you mean exactly. But from my point of view it really matters how you setup things.

With CF it's not easy because, I think, there are many different wishes:
- just some entertainment while sitting in the boat/at home
- need advice for tools/equipment
- need advice with sailing
- want to discuss politics and important matter like 'the environment'
- need urgently help (when e.g. someone is (temp., hopefully) missing at sea
- many other subjects, a certain knowledge/fun/wisdom/stupid mixture is nice.

So for some subjects it's wonderful when the discussion ebbs and flows. On other matters it really is disturbing, signal noise relation totally out of hand. But I want to say in general it seems quite ok for me.

[Exile]

Originally Posted by sailorboy1

This thread has entertainment value, which some try to ruin by thinking it really matters.

An honest if not wise observation . . . about CF as with many things in life.

[robwilk37]

ive raced and crewed on hundreds of boats over the years. the happiest boats had a standing policy of "keep politics and religion on the dock". not a bad idea for these forums too...

[RaymondR]

Originally Posted by robwilk37

ive raced and crewed on hundreds of boats over the years. the happiest boats had a standing policy of "keep politics and religion on the dock". not a bad idea for these forums too...

Nah, can't do that.

We'd have to give up on "climate change" which is both a religion and very predominately political in nature.

[Lake-Effect]

Originally Posted by RaymondR

We'd have to give up on "climate change" which is both a religion and very predominately political in nature.

Let's be clear - climate change is a widely-held scientific conclusion, which people like you have helped turn into a political tussle, for very unscientific personal and political reasons. Own it.

[Mike OReilly]

What fascinates, and dismays me, is the increasing number of anti-science, anti-expert, conspiracy-theorist on CF. A few have been around for a while, but there seems to be a real uptick in newer members of this ilk.

[B23iL23]

Seems like we are back to the middle ages where beliefs meant everything and science was something akin to heresy.

Sad times

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

What fascinates, and dismays me, is the increasing number of anti-science, anti-expert, conspiracy-theorist on CF. A few have been around for a while, but there seems to be a real uptick in newer members of this ilk.

[Knot Safety]

If you want to discuss climate change and the beliefs of it is true or not, go start your own thread and do that. What is happening to this thread is about what happens to most threads of late. Descending into entrenched positions over topics that are not relevant to the discussion

[Lake-Effect]

Originally Posted by Knot Safety

If you want to discuss climate change and the beliefs of it is true or not, go start your own thread and do that. What is happening to this thread is about what happens to most threads of late. Descending into entrenched positions over topics that are not relevant to the discussion

The relevance is that it's the clearest possible indication that there are these perennial hot-button issues and people won't resist injecting their takes on these whenever possible.

So the mod question is: do you suppress the first such comment, or the first rebuttal? if it's the latter... there will be no change.

[JoeRobertJr]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

What fascinates, and dismays me, is the increasing number of anti-science, anti-expert, conspiracy-theorist on CF. A few have been around for a while, but there seems to be a real uptick in newer members of this ilk.

I see the same thing among even my FB friends. And just last week NPR put out an article indicating that US security experts are growing more concerned about radicalization, especially on the political right, and not just the extreme right or left. That was the most disturbing article I read last week. The firehose of information is knocking the sense out of some people.