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Old 17-01-2025, 08:09   #196
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Re: 2024 was the Warmest Year on Record

Earth is currently in an ice age, called the Quaternary [or Pleistocene] Ice Age, which began around 2.5 million years ago, and is still going on.
We are currently in an Interglacial stage of this ice age, that began about 11,000 years ago.

The stages within ice ages are defined as: Glacial [a 70k - 90,000 year cold period, when the glaciers are expanding], & Interglacial [a 10k - 30,000 year warming period, when the glaciers and ice sheets are receding].

The last period of expanding glaciation, peaked about 20,000 years ago. At that time, the world was on average probably about 10°F [5°C] colder than today, and locally as much as 40°F [22°C] colder.
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Re: 2024 was the Warmest Year on Record

Recent quote from CORDIS-EU Research Results - "Greenland was once truly green, according to new research which shows that the southern highlands of the country used to be home to a lush boreal forest. The work, which was partly funded by the EU's Marie Curie programme, is published in the latest edition of the journal Science."
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Re: 2024 was the Warmest Year on Record

I was watching one of those Youtube video's that attempt to show planet earth in our solar system and then expand outwards into the what we know as the cosmos.

Taken as such, planet earth is about the size of a grain of sand in all the world's oceans, and mankind that occupies this smudge in the sky are less the size of microbes in the grand scheme of things.

Taken in that context, it is inconceivable to me, that mankind knows much of anything and to postulate on things like global warming, sea level rise, etc, is laughable.

Throughout the centuries, mankind has postulated on many unknown things pertaining to this globe and which are invariable proved to be wrong in time.

It would not be wrong to say that mankind generally knows squat about most of these things, but for a moment in time it becomes a popular topic for some giving them their 15 minutes of fame so to speak.
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Re: 2024 was the Warmest Year on Record

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The real kicker? Scientists are now saying, “Hey, remember that Paris Climate Agreement? Yeah… we just blew past that limit like it was a speed bump.” rim shot ...
Pure Bull!
In this day & age, there's really no excuse, to be so woefully misinformed; particularly when you are provided detailed & accurate information [in this case, exactly what the scientists said].

A single year that exceeds pre-industrial temperatures, by 1.5°C or more, is not the end of the story. The Paris agreement considers the 1.5°C threshold breached, only if that is the average temperature increase, over a 20-30 year stretch.

From my original post & link, Copernicus categorically stated:
https://climate.copernicus.eu/global...ighlights-2024
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“... 2024 was 0.72°C warmer than the 1991–2020 average, and 1.60°C warmer than the pre-industrial level, making it the first calendar year to exceed 1.5 above that level ...

The UNFCCC Paris Agreement aims at “holding the increase in the global average temperature to well below 2°C above pre-industrial levels and pursuing efforts to limit the temperature increase to 1.5°C above pre-industrial levels”. Although the Agreement does not specify what constitutes the achievement of this goal, or indeed what precisely “well below” 2°C means, it is generally agreed that temperatures averaged over two or three decades are needed to confirm that one or other of these thresholds has been passed. The average of global temperatures between 1850–1900 is typically taken to represent the pre-industrial level.

One or two years that exceed 1.5°C above the pre-industrial level does not imply that the Paris Agreement has been breached. However, with the current rate of warming at more than 0.2°C per decade, the probability of breaching the 1.5°C target of the Paris Agreement within the 2030s is highly likely...
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Reanalysis data are often used to represent the "true state of the atmosphere according to observations." In actual fact, reanalysis combines inaccurate and incomplete observations with imperfect models, using methods and procedures that are technically and scientifically complex.
Thank you confirming once again that you don't understand how science actually works.

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.... it is inconceivable to me, that mankind knows much of anything and to postulate on things like global warming, sea level rise, etc, is laughable.

Throughout the centuries, mankind has postulated on many unknown things pertaining to this globe and which are invariable proved to be wrong in time.
Well, at least newhaul has company here. With an extra helping of being just plain wrong.

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Recent quote from CORDIS-EU Research Results - "Greenland was once truly green, according to new research which shows that the southern highlands of the country used to be home to a lush boreal forest. The work, which was partly funded by the EU's Marie Curie programme, is published in the latest edition of the journal Science."
Yes, and research also confirms that once there were dinosaurs, fewer mammals and no humans. Any particular reason why you'd like to go back to that?

(same old, same old, I know... but we must keep our elders entertained)
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God is in charge of the climate and weather on planet Earth to think that man can influence is truly arrogant.
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Re: 2024 was the Warmest Year on Record

Well now. After reading glasses many of the opinions I was glad to ser thete were a good number of non emotional thinkers. Let us not forget Al Gore"s professor decanter his theory some years ago. California wild fires are caused more by stupidity of the politicians and the people that voted for them. We sure can be glad that the top three Management positions in the LA Fire department are lesbians.
I spent two years in Australia where the Greenies caused horrific forest fires in the same way as LA. Turns out some of those fires in LA county were caused by Meth Heads who have now been named "Homeless". They just love fires apparently. BTW There is news footage of Trump telling them how to prevent the fires in the future , 4 years ago. Maybe some day common sense will become common again.
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Things comes and goes.

The small farts we send out, means nothing.
Just higher fees and taxes, used for filling the state money boxes.
Scientists are paid for saying, that it is so.

Plants love CO2. If you do not like CO2, plant more plants ;-)
In the beginning of dino age, the CO2 was 7000 ppm.
It is not abnormal.
Where did the CO2 came from at that time ?
Volcanoes and eruptions. Not from cars and humans in the dino age, right ?
1.5 degrees can never be a "heat wave", not even 2.5 or 3.0
If you feel too hot, move away.
Actually, a lot more people die from cold than from heat, so in MHO heat is good.

Life loves heat. Have you ever seen a 2 feet wingspan dragonfly, or a 75 feet dino ?
That was their size long time ago, because of warmer weather.
Heat is good.

Problem now is, that governments needs YOUR money to spend.

And there are far too many people on this planet, thanks to religions.
So focus on condoms or womens rights, or even celibacy (oh no...)
Many countries has a low birth rate. That is good.
Only one generation, then the old will be gone, and people can start a new life, with fewer people.

Windmills stops when the wind stops, and then we must dust off the good old gas or coal fired power plants, to get them running for a few days. Nonsense.
No, build a myriad of small scale local nuclear power plants, to stop all these windmills and solar cell fields, plastered all over our farmlands.
They only last 15-20 years max, then all has to be renewed.
Only some places, solar cells are useful year around.

The main focus must be to eliminate pollution (chemicals, pesticides, heavy metals etc.) of the Earth.
On land and in the sea, and in the air.
CO2 is not poisonous.

Gordmay, I must agree, that this topic is out of the Cruiser's Forum range.
But you certainly stirred up a wasp nest !

Thank you for your attention, ladies and gentlemen
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No need to worry at all. According to scientists, we were all dead by 1980, then 1990, then 2000, then 2010 and then 2020 so none of this affects anyone.
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24 years ago Al Gore forecast that fish would be swimming in the streets of Miami in 20 years. So I went out and bought a fishing rod..................
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Almost certainly.
Wildfires are becoming more frequent, and larger [more intense], owing [in part] to droughts, and warmer weather, exacerbated by climate change.

The wildfires in Los Angeles County, for instance, are being fuelled by unusually dry weather [8 month draught], and hurricane-strength winds; both of which are known to be exacerbated by climate change.
However, directly attributing a specific event [LA fires], to climate change is difficult.

Seriously, you have absolutely no idea on these wildfires...they happen all of time winds have been as high as 90mph as far back as 30 years, drought has little to do with it...it's mismanagement of controlled burns, fire breaks and other fire mitigating processes

I speak as someone who lived 5miles south of Pasadena from 1966 until 2022...
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The British results are taken from weather stations that don’t actually exist!
https://lnkd.in/gqmuKGk8

And last year in the UK was bloody cold I had the heating on in the middle of the summer and last year too - I have never done that before 2023.

I am not in denial just making claims on false information is not a good look is it.
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Warmest year on record?

While reading about the US largest battery factory burning uncontrolled in Monterey CA - I recall this interview from the founder of Weather Channel.

https://m.facebook.com/reel/10762586...ibextid=6AJuK9

Latest estimates- LA wildfires released more carbon than all that was saved in the past 18 years. And this was small compared to te Canadian fires of past 2 years.
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