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08-02-2013, 13:09
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#31
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Senior Cruiser

Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: 29° 49.16’ N 82° 25.82’ W
Boat: Pearson 422
Posts: 16,306
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Re: Your Home On The Water
Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Lucas
must be a pretty complex math equation to go along with this 
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All quite simple. No complex equations at all.
The sluggish 42' is a Hunter and the fast 37' is a Pearson.
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08-02-2013, 13:25
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#32
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S/V rubber ducky
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Bahamas cruising currently
Boat: Hunter 410
Posts: 19,903
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Re: Your Home On The Water
Quote:
Originally Posted by skipmac
All quite simple. No complex equations at all.
The sluggish 42' is a Hunter and the fast 37' is a Pearson.

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must not apply to all models of a brand as I have heard of a Pearson 422 that hasn't been able to move for years  , but then maybe it is the owner
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08-02-2013, 13:42
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#33
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2010
Location: some ocean down under
Boat: Kelsall Suncat 40
Posts: 1,248
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Re: Your Home On The Water
I was wondering what size houses/apartments you live aboard full time, and in comfort, and just how much maintaining your building for living, costs you per year. It would also be good to know how often you replace roofs and guttering on a live aboard building. I'm asking because I have my eye on a few 150 m2 houses and apartments and one 400 m2 McMansion. A nice big McMansion at a realistic price sound good but...I have no wish to buy something I would not be able to maintain in good order.

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08-02-2013, 13:50
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#34
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: North Coast NSW
Boat: 38' cutter
Posts: 264
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Re: Your Home On The Water
Guess I'd better add my few words to this discussion - especially as our lady has the lovely name of BANYANDAH, which for the aboriginal people of Australia means Home On The Water.
Banyandah has been our Home on the Water since 1973. She was our first home and we raised our two children aboard her while sailing the world for 16 years.
Banyandah is 38' loa, and 11'-3" wide, she weighs about 13 tonnes as she is ferrocement.
What makes Banyandah such a superb Home on the Water is she is roomy with two separate accommodations, fore and aft, split by a roomy well protected centre cockpit. She has now tracked about 150,000 NM in all seas except Antarctica.
A Very important consideration when choosing your ideal vessel is it's weight. Imagine fending 25 tonnes off a jetty by only two crew and you can see what problems you can have. If the vessel is well equipped with a bow thruster then the size can be upped if you can afford to support a larger vessel. The larger the boat, the bigger the costs.
Personally, 38' is ideal for us. But we have seen many sail the world on board smaller craft of 30'. Below that, you'd better love pain.
We've published a report on Banyandah recent refit here.
And we have a comprehensive website filled with photos dating back to her construction, with plenty of helpful hints on systems that have proved reliable and easy to implement.
Hope that helps
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08-02-2013, 14:17
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#35
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: between the devil and the deep blue sea
Boat: a sailing boat
Posts: 20,421
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Re: Your Home On The Water
Quote:
Originally Posted by BillAU
- what size sail-boats/power-boats you live aboard full time, and in comfort,
- and just how much maintaining your boat for cruising costs you per year,
- good to know how often you replace sails on a cruising sail-boat.
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G'day, mate,
- 26', sailboat,
- roughly 5% of purchase price, up to 10% before crossings,
- depending on how much they are used, UV is the limit.
(I believe a good sail may last some 20k Nm but may not last 40k. Nm)
Cheers,
b.
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08-02-2013, 15:15
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#36
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Moderator
Join Date: May 2008
Location: cruising SW Pacific
Boat: Jon Sayer 1-off 46 ft fract rig sloop strip plank in W Red Cedar
Posts: 20,813
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Re: Your Home On The Water
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bash
Well, there you have it! If I had to wait 42000 miles between new sails, I'd be changing hobbies.
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Bash, for some it isn't a hobby... it's our life!
We average around 6K miles per year and buying new sails every other year or so would be hurtful to our economy.
YMMV, and if the finances are not a problem, well, new sails are (usually) a joyful thing.
Cheers,
Jim
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08-02-2013, 15:32
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#37
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: between the devil and the deep blue sea
Boat: a sailing boat
Posts: 20,421
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Re: Your Home On The Water
The equation is actually simpler yet, the formula is: SPACE = BEAM.
Barges fit in best.
b.
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08-02-2013, 15:36
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#38
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: between the devil and the deep blue sea
Boat: a sailing boat
Posts: 20,421
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Re: Your Home On The Water
Bash did say 'at least'. What's the fuss? Mind the nick ;-)
b.
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08-02-2013, 17:42
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#39
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Montegut LA.
Boat: Now we need to get her to Louisiana !! she's ours
Posts: 3,421
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Re: Your Home On The Water
 Ive sailed some 40 ft + boats a lot, and in our own 42 ftr for 25+ yrs, and days runs of 200 NMs were common !! These were mono hulls! there were also 100 NM or less sometimes but Ive sailed past lots of shorter boats!! no way can anyone state that 40+ ft boats are slower then 33 ft or 36 ft or what ever!! it depends on the boat and the sails and the wind ! and the abilty of the sailor!! Better try sailing on a 40 ft boat sometime before ya make a statement like that one LOL cus thats called a BROAD Statement!! LOL
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08-02-2013, 22:25
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#40
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Moderator
Join Date: May 2008
Location: cruising SW Pacific
Boat: Jon Sayer 1-off 46 ft fract rig sloop strip plank in W Red Cedar
Posts: 20,813
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Re: Your Home On The Water
Quote:
Originally Posted by bobconnie
Better try sailing on a 40 ft boat sometime before ya make a statement like that one LOL cus thats called a BROAD Statement!! LOL
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Broad=ignorant!
Jim
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09-02-2013, 14:15
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#41
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Corio
Boat: Careel 22
Posts: 452
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Re: Your Home On The Water
Thanks for all the advice, lots of good info', looks like a 38'er is the most suitable choice for one man + his dog, most times, with an extra 4 mates at most, occasional, on holliday fishing trips.
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09-02-2013, 14:22
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#42
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Quaker Hill, CT (just above the US Coast Guard Academy)
Boat: Silverton 34 Convertible
Posts: 200
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Re: Your Home On The Water
I live quite comfortably from April to November on a 34 ft Convertible...LL
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09-02-2013, 16:47
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#43
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Moderator Emeritus

Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Lived aboard & cruised for 45 years,- now on a chair in my walk-in closet.
Boat: Morgan OI 413 1973 - Aythya
Posts: 8,428
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Re: Your Home On The Water
I think that the boat size, length, beam, etc. that one has adapted to tends to be the best!
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09-02-2013, 17:54
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#44
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CF Adviser
Join Date: Oct 2007
Boat: Van Helleman Schooner 65ft StarGazer
Posts: 10,282
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Re: Your Home On The Water
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptForce
I think that the boat size, length, beam, etc. that one has adapted to tends to be the best!
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+1
I think when you arbitrarily set yourself size limits, you miss the opportunity to test what matters the most in your life choices. (Privacy, seaworthiness, comfort)
I chose a boat size that I knew I would never wish was bigger and at the same time, knew I could still manage both economically and physically.
It is more than a home, it is also my Ark.
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