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03-02-2017, 21:05
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Brantford Ontario Canada
Boat: Grampian Classic 31
Posts: 5
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Re: Wood stove on a sailboat?
We have a small anthracite/wood stove on our 31 ft Grampian. Here's a picture how it is installed.
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03-02-2017, 22:08
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Moderator
Join Date: May 2008
Location: cruising SW Pacific
Boat: Jon Sayer 1-off 46 ft fract rig sloop strip plank in W Red Cedar
Posts: 17,553
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Re: Wood stove on a sailboat?
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Originally Posted by Daily Ketch
We have a small anthracite/wood stove on our 31 ft Grampian. Here's a picture how it is installed.
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A coal/wood stove and white upholstery require a brave man...
Jim
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03-02-2017, 22:16
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Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Kona, Hawaii, Carlsbad, CA
Boat: 1969 Pearson 35 #108 & 1976 Sabre 28
Posts: 7,353
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Re: Wood stove on a sailboat?
There was a fellow who sailed in the PNW who loved his wood stove. Fuel was not a problem there because there was so much driftwood everywhere he anchored. He said he'd sail around till he ran out if Wood then anchor, row ashore and restock.
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'Ae'a, Pearson 35
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03-02-2017, 23:40
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cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Pangaea
Posts: 10,856
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Re: Wood stove on a sailboat?
We don't even allow candles on our boat.
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04-02-2017, 00:24
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cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2017
Boat: Retired from CF
Posts: 13,304
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Re: Wood stove on a sailboat?
very unhealthy personal air pollution
Propex, Webasto or Espar, combustion away from living space, very DC efficient, choose your fuel.
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04-02-2017, 02:45
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Sydney Australia
Boat: Fisher pilothouse sloop 32'
Posts: 2,184
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Re: Wood stove on a sailboat?
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Originally Posted by john61ct
very unhealthy personal air pollution
Propex, Webasto or Espar, combustion away from living space, very DC efficient, choose your fuel.
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Hi I am a little confused, are you suggesting that a wood fired combustion heater is dangerous to ones health or are you saying that a diesel fueled heater is less harmful or not harmful.
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04-02-2017, 09:48
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 15
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Re: Wood stove on a sailboat?
Google- rocket stoves and gasifier stoves
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04-02-2017, 10:07
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Good question
Boat: Rafiki 37
Posts: 9,999
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Re: Wood stove on a sailboat?
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Originally Posted by Uncle Bob
Hi I am a little confused, are you suggesting that a wood fired combustion heater is dangerous to ones health or are you saying that a diesel fueled heater is less harmful or not harmful.
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Speaking as someone who has lived with a wood stove as the main furnace (in a house on Lake Superior’s north shore no less), and who would consider getting one for my boat, I do have to say the dangers of wood smoke as a pollutant are well documented. Wood smoke is far from benign when it comes to local pollution.
Wood smoke usually contains carcinogens, heavy metals, contributes significantly to local smog, and is loaded with fine particulate which can do wonders to the lungs of us animals that breath it in. Diesel burners are not much better in these categories as well, but just b/c wood sounds more natural, doesn’t make it better (from a pollution standpoint anyway).
Of course wood is a winner when it comes of greenhouse gas production. Wood releases CO 2, but can be neutral in its contribution if the local forests are being managed properly. But lets not go there...
Anyway, I just wanted to insert that bit of info since it came up (rather oddly and tangentially I would say).
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04-02-2017, 10:35
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Bend, OR
Boat: Brewer designed Pacific 43 in fiberglass. Center cockpit set up for long-distance single handing.
Posts: 472
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Re: Wood stove on a sailboat?
When we arrive onboard, in higher latitudes, lighting the Cubic Mini is the first priority. It takes a few minutes to heat up but it is the focus of our happiness. It transforms a dank boat into a cozy mountain cabin. There will always be those who have little appreciation for this type of aesthetic but we feel our little woodstove is the very heart of our boat. In the PNW going ashore to collect wood is a ritual we love. A chainsaw is a handy item. Most often we burn Presto-logs.
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04-02-2017, 10:44
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Annapolis MD
Boat: Building a Max Cruise 42 cat - previous 37' aluminum mono
Posts: 2,683
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Re: Wood stove on a sailboat?
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Originally Posted by seasick
When we arrive onboard, in higher latitudes, lighting the Cubic Mini is the first priority. It takes a few minutes to heat up but it is the focus of our happiness. It transforms a dank boat into a cozy mountain cabin. There will always be those who have little appreciation for this type of aesthetic but we feel our little woodstove is the very heart of our boat. In the PNW going ashore to collect wood is a ritual we love. A chainsaw is a handy item. Most often we burn Presto-logs.
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What's your burn time with a presto log? Do you quarter it first?
Matt
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04-02-2017, 11:02
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Bend, OR
Boat: Brewer designed Pacific 43 in fiberglass. Center cockpit set up for long-distance single handing.
Posts: 472
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Re: Wood stove on a sailboat?
@Funjohnson, hi Matt. We chop the Prestologs into three inch lengths. Our Cubic Mini Cub can hold about five such pieces at a time. We'll toss in a new piece about once every hour. Before turning in for the night we'll put in a five inch piece and she'll burn all night, typically about five hours.
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04-02-2017, 11:18
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 31
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Re: Wood stove on a sailboat?
Wood Stove
We used a wood stove aboard for several decades. It was a small range with an oven. It was surrounded on three sides by stainless steel sheet metal backed by insulation. It served us well and it was wonderful to come in out of the cold to a warm wood fire and the smell of baking. When we moved into a marina in Alaska we had to remove it because of complaints by neighbors of soot. Use while sailing would cause an occasional blowback of smoke. You need to use some common sense with wood stoves. With wood comes bugs and you need to clean the stove out on occasion. You need a good deck fitting too. I made stainless oversize panels to accept the stovepipe in each direction. I am building another boat now and it will have a wood stove.
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04-02-2017, 11:23
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#29
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Nanaimo BC
Boat: modified Spray 56' oa
Posts: 369
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Re: Wood stove on a sailboat?
35 years of mostly off grid cruising BC. Homemade wood stove. Mostly foraged fuel Back when presto logs were 10 cents maybe sometimes. but they tend to crumble and fir bark smells better. I could burn up to 7" long so a cut up pallet was good fuel in town The stove door is the hardest part to fabricate, Usually start with a scrounged cast iron gold plated glass front,. Air space behind the stove shielding is important. I usually slip a second larger ss pipe over the stack ,open both top & at the bottom .,Prevents melting the rain gear.The deck iron ,I make from SS pipes and plate washers Deep enough to clear 4x4deck beams and 3 " decking. Fully airtight means you can shut down and sail quick if necessary. You soon learn to adjust hatch and port openings depending on tack and weather you have the short or long pipe above deck. Coal is to be avoided. Lighting with a squirt of metal hydrate may be quick but not bright. Most west coast cruising off grid types go wood. Ambiance is 100 %
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04-02-2017, 12:02
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2015
Boat: Tanzer 28
Posts: 13
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Re: Wood stove on a sailboat?
I have a Cubic mini and love it. I was doing some interior work on the boat last week at about -10 in a heavy wind. After I got the chill off, it was oh so cozy....had it up to 80 in a couple of hours. Used a small bucket of wood. My wife is easily chilled and hated sailing for that reason.... not any more. The cabin is never cold or damp or smelly. Like all new wood stoves there is some learning curve. I may be biased because I have 9 serviceable wood stoves in my various buildings. The stove cost me about $400. The company in Quebec, were it is made, was very friendly and professional and helpful. I got advice from the owner of the company, who designed this stove for his own boat I think he said it was a C&C 30. I used double wall insulated propane furnace pipe through and above the cabin top, to eliminate creosote condensation. It is one of my great joys on the boat to warm my cold feet and make a pot of coffee with out using a petroleum product.
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