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10-07-2009, 06:07
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GordMay
Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
Boat: (Cruiser Living On Dirt)
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241
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Hud3
... they're selling Klein bottles. They'd be perfect for holding dessicated Dihydrogen Monoxide.
The inside of a Kleinsche Fläche (Klein bottle) is its outside, and so,
it contains itself
.
The bottle is a single-sided surface, like the Möbius strip, and is has no border, and neither an enclosed
interior
(bound volume) nor exterior.
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"If you didn't have the time or money to do it right in the first place, when will you get the time/$ to fix it?"
10-07-2009, 07:22
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Endojoe
Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: D/FW, TX
Boat: No Boat right now :-(
Posts: 77
Reminds me of a video clip...
Ban Dihydrogen Monoxide!!!
10-07-2009, 07:42
#
33
Reality Check
Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: West Indies, Now live aboard as cruiser/ voyager often with guest/ friends
Boat: 36' Bene
Posts: 585
Note that these are probably also Voters...... make me want to stay on the boat!!!
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10-07-2009, 07:44
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nautical62
Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Live Iowa - Sail mostly Bahamas
Boat: Beneteau 32.5
Posts: 2,307
Images:
12
I love long, hot morning showers at home, but lack of fresh
water
necessitates a change of lifestyle when cruising.
When cruising the islands in hot
weather
an evening dip hits the spot. Just enough fresh
water
to lather up - jump in, and a couple cups of fresh water to rinse most of the
salt water
out. If it's really warm I dry off in the
wind
after sunset and go to
bed
refreshed. I really like walk out transoms for this reason. In addition to going to
bed
refreshed, I find the late evening ritual keeps the
sheets
from getting salty as well.
When I had my
pocket cruiser
, I'd often get the
shower
water by bailing out the dingy after a rain and filling sun showers.
A snorkel swim in the morning stretches me out, wakes me up, gives me my exercise and gets the blood going.
I've removed the
shower
option from the
head
of my
boat
specifically so people need to either shower on the back or sponge bath in the
head
.
On other wilderness trips, I've often had to go weeks with out bathing.
10-07-2009, 08:05
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35
cantxsailor
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Houston TX
Boat: Pacific Seacraft 25 "Turtle"
Posts: 364
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When I worked as a fisherman we would stay out for a max of 14days and had no showers at all. Granted the west of
Vancouver
Island is not very warm most of the time but I'm sure we were pretty funky by the time we got back into port. Add in the smell of
fish
to the mix and the very thought makes me gag. Like mom would say "Are you going to eat with those hands?"............m
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I must go down to the sea again.........
10-07-2009, 08:29
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Bash
CF Adviser
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: sausalito
Boat: 14 meter sloop
Posts: 7,260
is the sin here being cheerful?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
htraudes
1. While half of the world population has no clean water to drink, we have this cheerful discussion about our "absolute need" to have on, two or more showers a day. I wished our thirsty brothers and sisters could join our happy discussion.
I can only assume that some of our correspondents must be terribly out of the loop when it comes to the water
consumption
of cruising sailors. A typical land dweller in Missouri will flush away more fresh water in a day, just through the toilets, than a cruising sailor will use in a week. Most
liveaboard
cruisers use absolutely zero fresh water to irrigate lawns, flush toilets, or even wash cars. Most of us can tell stories about stretching out our tankage for several weeks, and more than one of us has been able to brag about being able to shower on less water than the average person uses to brush his teeth. Many of us collect rainwater to fill our
tanks
, and most cruisers have
solar
showers to heat the water they shower with while on the hook. A growing number of cruisers desalinate their own water with 12 volt systems that transfer
solar
and
wind
power
into fresh water.
Yes, aquifer exhaustion is an increasing problem, one often aggrivated by tourism. But the water
consumption
of a cruising sailor is far less than that of a golfer, or someone staying in a
hotel
with a pool, or just about any other tourist who gets fresh towels daily.
My reading of this thread, notwithstanding Gord's little drift regarding alternative nomenclatures for H2O, is that most of us who
cruise
appreciate a shower for the luxury it is, and rejoice in the opportunity to take one aboard. Anyone who doesn't understand this simply hasn't spent enough time on the hook.
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10-07-2009, 09:59
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37
imagine2frolic
Eternal Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Las Brisas Panama AGAIN!
Boat: Simpson, Catamaran, 46ft. IMAGINE
Posts: 4,507
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I live on Imagine, and own a
muffler
shop. I am filthy when I get home. Working sawsalls, chopsaws, welding, and cutting with a torch. Even with all this crud on me I shower in the evening with less than 1 1/2 glns of water. The wake up is about a quart of water. This is at the dcok where I can let it flow if I wish. On the hook I use even less.
I was like this long before I got into boats. Anybody live through the drought in Ca. during the early 70's?
If it's yellow let it mellow
,
and if it's brown flush it down
. After a while you didn't even want to flush brown, because nothing but brown water was in the pipes in some places. Moving onto a
boat
just refined using water for me to be even more conservative.......
i2f
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BORROWED
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10-07-2009, 11:11
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38
nautical62
Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Live Iowa - Sail mostly Bahamas
Boat: Beneteau 32.5
Posts: 2,307
Images:
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
Islander
I replumbed my
shower sump
pump
through a two-way valve. One side goes
overboard
as normal, the other goes to a second shower head. When I run a gallon of fresh water into the sump I switch over to the second shower head and have as long a shower as I want.
Cheers.
That's a really great idea. As someone who loves hot showers, I'd even consider prioritizing my
heat exchanger
to that. I can deal just fine ambient temperature water at the sinks, but a never ending hot shower? - mmmm
10-07-2009, 11:21
#
39
anjou
Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Malvernshire, on the sunny side of the hill.
Boat: 50' steel canal and river cruiser
Posts: 1,905
Quote:
Originally Posted by
GordMay
Desiccated dihydrogen monoxide (DDHMO) is available in apparently empty plastic bags. Just add DHMO, and voila.
Unfortunately, there are moves afoot to ban the product.
➥
Dihydrogen Monoxide Research Division - dihydrogen monoxide info
Yeah, thats so funni
I have to remember that next April 1st
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10-07-2009, 11:48
#
40
GordMay
Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
Boat: (Cruiser Living On Dirt)
Posts: 49,394
Images:
241
Many of course do not think carefully about what they read
, and so in March 2004, the
California
municipality of Alisa Viejo very nearly passed a law banning foam containers at city-sponsored
events
because they contained DHMO. Although Alisa Viejo realized its mistake before passing legislation, it was not in time to prevent widespread national coverage of the incident:
Associated Press ➥
http://www.dhmo.org/presskit/clippin...atedpress.html
National Public
Radio
➥
Dihydrogen Monoxide Sparks Global Concern : NPR
"If you're going to use the
Internet
, you have to use it in as efficient a manner as possible. It becomes even more
important to crosscheck your facts
: finding it in one resource isn't good enough," said Way. "My feeling is 'reader beware.'"
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"If you didn't have the time or money to do it right in the first place, when will you get the time/$ to fix it?"
15-07-2009, 12:29
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41
zeehag
cat herder, extreme blacksheep
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: furycame alley , tropics, mexico for now
Boat: 1976 FORMOSA yankee clipper 41
Posts: 18,967
Images:
56
just got back from 6 weeks of sail cruising---showered in storms and pit bathed between--pit baths are less than one cup water and a cloth---showers are in
marinas
for over half hour, when
marinas
are used----i caught and cleaned and cooked my own fishies and we didnt stink at all----even stayed in marinas which were closed or deserted/abandoned--those are the most fun---storms delivered enough water to rinse off just a bit oft he dust gained each day the second half of the trip---rinse out the
fish
mess in
cockpit
with
salt
water--that stuff cleans better than fresh water anyday....the decision os smell was made after consulting the other soul i was sailing with lol......he didnt stink either--some of our passages were 48hrs to 3 days in length..storms ruled our forward progress......something about
lightning
and a
lightning
rod in the open sea.....lol.....-
16-07-2009, 02:46
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42
captain58sailin
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Homer, AK is my home port
Boat: Skookum 53'
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We would catch the fresh water off of the
sails
during the squalls and shower during them as well. Otherwise fresh water was only for drinking, and
salt water
was used for everything else.
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16-07-2009, 04:00
#
43
Dockhead
Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Denmark (Winter), Helsinki (Summer); Cruising the Baltic Sea this year!
Boat: Cutter-Rigged Moody 54
Posts: 33,865
Quote:
Originally Posted by
anjou
I always shower in the morning, but in warmer
weather
and if ive either worked up a sweat or got dirty during the day, i shower when i get home in the evening too.
The morning shower is vital and i cant feel clean without one. I feel as though something vital is missing otherwise
Me too, exactly. It drives my father crazy, who is a water consumption nazi, but in hot weather I can't live without two showers a day. Neither the morning nor the evening shower is dispensible. I am careful to use as little water as possible with each shower, but it's still a lot of water compared to those real old salts who splash a couple of teacups of water on themselves every three days, whether they need it or not.
At least one of my showers is a fresh water rinse on the swim platform after a swim, when that is possible.
16-07-2009, 07:28
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44
Joli
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Ohio
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4
Good for you guys! Keep having fun.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
MarkJ
We shower when we can find a nice place.
This is Lizard Island,
Great Barrier Reef
,
Australia
.
Dunno who the Elf is.
16-07-2009, 15:38
#
45
cherrick
Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Southern Bastrop County, TX
Posts: 17
The drought
Quote:
Originally Posted by
imagine2frolic
I live on Imagine, and own a
muffler
shop. I am filthy when I get home. Working sawsalls, chopsaws, welding, and cutting with a torch. Even with all this crud on me I shower in the evening with less than 1 1/2 glns of water. The wake up is about a quart of water. This is at the dcok where I can let it flow if I wish. On the hook I use even less.
I was like this long before I got into boats. Anybody live through the drought in Ca. during the early 70's?
If it's yellow let it mellow
,
and if it's brown flush it down
. After a while you didn't even want to flush brown, because nothing but brown water was in the pipes in some places. Moving onto a boat just refined using water for me to be even more conservative.......
i2f
I remember that one. The
government
bureaucrats did go on about the rules, didn't they.
Not everyone followed the rules. And down in
Texas
we're on our second year of a terrible drought and the only rules the
government
folks have come up with is a burn ban.
Telling.
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