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06-11-2017, 17:43
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#16
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: New Zealand sailing Malaysia thailand
Boat: Ericson/Gulfstar 50/ Noresman 447
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Re: Using a hammock during a sailing passage
Not to show my age, but my first ship was fitted with hammocks an this is where I slept for the next 9 months.
Most yachts do not have a room down below to swing a hammock.
The hammock used was not like you use at home in your back yard, ours were made of heavy canvas an we placed a small hard mattress inside, sheets were fitted An the top sheet an blanket were tied at one end, the other end had a stick spreader which kept the nettles (the string or rope holding the hammock)apart.
The hammock was slung bar taut (as tight as possible) an we then swung ourselves into it.
I was in a small ship An she rolled, but once it my hammock I had the best night sleep ever.
A well lashed hammock could be used to plug a hole in the hull, an used to keep you afloat (lash up An stow).
Don’t try an sling a hammock after a few beers ashore it does not work.
In answer to your question great at sea if slung properly.
Cheers
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06-11-2017, 20:45
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#17
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Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Jersey
Boat: Bristol 35.5
Posts: 492
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Re: Using a hammock during a sailing passage
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Originally Posted by fxykty
I’ve used a hammock above deck between mast and forestay and it starts to rock with almost no roll at all. Perhaps hanging it on the diagonal would help to minimise rocking. But you definitely need a way to dampen the rocking. I’m not sure about sleeping for a longer period in a hammock - doesn’t the curve really mess up your back?
But the reality of hammocks as used by the old British Navy was not about care for their sailors - it was a pragmatic solution to having no fitted furniture on the gun decks. Watch Master and Commander and pay attention to the between decks scenes. Not comfortable.
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I use a hammock when on the road with bike. wake up in the morning and not want to get out of it. my back is worse than everyone else's. Hennessey Hammocks.. incredible product.
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06-11-2017, 21:22
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#18
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Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: New England
Posts: 356
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Re: Using a hammock during a sailing passage
My Clark Jungle Hammock has worked for me for the past 15 years. Never went back to sleeping in a tent on the ground during backpacking adventures.
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06-11-2017, 23:57
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#19
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Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: SE Asia, for now
Boat: Outremer 55L
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Re: Using a hammock during a sailing passage
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Originally Posted by powsmias
I use a hammock when on the road with bike. wake up in the morning and not want to get out of it. my back is worse than everyone else's. Hennessey Hammocks.. incredible product.
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I’ve heard of the Hennessy Hammocks from my old mountaineering days. More and more of these posts are convincing me that I really need to try a sleeping hammock on my boat. I room for my partner is a bit of a bummer though.
That back of yours sure looks like my daughter’s scoliosis. She got it straightened with a couple of titanium rods. Not for you though I guess? Truly a hard man.
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09-11-2017, 13:59
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#20
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Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 51
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Re: Using a hammock during a sailing passage
So I guess for room, you'd need 7 or so ft for the hammock itself, and then another few feet for the assorted ropes. Then laterally you'd need the width of the hammock plus a foot or two other side. so 10ft by 4 ft minimum?
My late grandfather slept in hammocks on a sloop in WWII. I once said how terrible it must have been. He said it was great, no rocking, and cool especially in the tropics. They had stiff cotton rectangular ones that were box shaped iirc.
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12-11-2017, 17:31
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#21
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Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Sydney Australia
Boat: 36ft classic timber sloop.
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Re: Using a hammock during a sailing passage
Hi all. My tips for a comfy hammock sleeping on board. Rig it longer and tighter to minimize sag (curvature). High level close to hand grips above works better for ease in /out and for free space below (unless maybe stack/bunk type sleeping). Fore/aft is essential on any vessel the heels under sail. All hammocks will move in unison so can be close without touching. I like breathable fabric / canvas only type. for me a sleeping bag as below insulation and wrap over. Two light/medium bags are much better than tangle wrestling one warm sleeping bag. A pillow or full "stuff-bag" at each end can assist with head and foot space if wanted. Any more equipment, spreaders than this is generally counter productive and excess complication. You can think of this as sleeping with a "lee cloth" all round you.
Fatigue is the biggest issue in long trips by even the best sailors. Sleep well all. A.
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08-12-2017, 10:25
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#22
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 54
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Re: Using a hammock during a sailing passage
Be sure to carefully consider the attachment points for your hammock, especially if you intend to use it while underway. I have a friend (a wee lad of 200+ pounds) who pulled down the bulkhead on a fiberglass boat while going to windward in choppy seas.
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11-12-2024, 14:46
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#23
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Join Date: Jan 2024
Posts: 1
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Re: Using a hammock during a sailing passage
Hi. On the HMS Endeavour we slept in hammocks and it was brilliant. It helped with seasickness, you only really felt the pitching. And you didn’t try and restrict the swinging. One night in rough seas I would wake up and see I was right near the overhead. I rate it. Apart from my snoring neighbour. I will definitely try it in my boat. When I get one. Anyone with a Southern Cross 31 in Australia who wants to sell/gift to me?
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11-12-2024, 15:44
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#24
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Arctic Ocean
Boat: Under construction 35' ketch (and +3 smaller)
Posts: 2,974
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Re: Using a hammock during a sailing passage
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Originally Posted by barnakiel
snip..
A racing (canvas, stretcher style) bunk can be used where a hammock cannot fit.
Cheers,
b.
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You mean a pipe berth?
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11-12-2024, 16:45
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#25
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Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Bahamas
Boat: 1983 Pearson 424 Ketch
Posts: 1,095
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Re: Using a hammock during a sailing passage
Given how hard I've seen our hammock of fruit and vegetables slam against the ceiling on passage, I'm not sure how well it would work.
Though I was just reading The Wager... and it sounds like they all slept in some sort of hammock.
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11-12-2024, 17:49
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#26
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: PORTUGAL
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Re: Using a hammock during a sailing passage
Gimbaled beds... Luv em..
Just lash and stash..
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11-12-2024, 19:54
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#27
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Southern Chesapeake Bay
Boat: Norseman 430, Jabberwock
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Re: Using a hammock during a sailing passage
Regarding sag/curvature, the "proper" way to lie in a hammock with spreader bars is to lie diagonally. I muttered baloney when I read this, but it works, no back curvature. The corners where your head and feet are will twist downward, straightening your body.
With real short spreader bars as required by your space on a boat it may not be as effective, and obviously you may no longer be exactly fore and aft.
And as far as swinging as compared to fruit hammocks, the natural frequency of swinging is slower with more mass and the longer radius of the "swing".
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11-12-2024, 20:02
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#28
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Boat: Swarbrick S-80
Posts: 1,004
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Re: Using a hammock during a sailing passage
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Originally Posted by ggray
Regarding sag/curvature, the "proper" way to lie in a hammock with spreader bars is to lie diagonally. I muttered baloney when I read this, but it works, no back curvature. The corners where your head and feet are will twist downward, straightening your body.
With real short spreader bars as required by your space on a boat it may not be as effective, and obviously you may no longer be exactly fore and aft.
And as far as swinging as compared to fruit hammocks, the natural frequency of swinging is slower with more mass and the longer radius of the "swing".
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I use a hammock exclusively while camping and the trick is, as described above, to lie diagonally.
My hammock has a cut out for my feet to facilitate this.
The other trick is to hang the hammock with around a 30° angle in the ropes to make sure it’s not too tight when you get in.
Haven’t tried it yet in my boat (as it’s too small) but will on my next one.
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