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Old 23-10-2021, 15:30   #1
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Tips for where to liveaboard. Southern Europe

Hi, first post on this site.
I have been thinking of moving from Norway in my 34 foot Hero 101 sailboat.
Would like it to be warm place, and preferably in/close to a city.
I'm pretty young, so a place with other young people and some nightlife would be nice.
I will have to fly home multiple times a year for work so there has to be an airport pretty close aswell. And not too far away from Norway
The Marina can't be too expensive either...
Hope this isnt too much to ask haha.
So if anyone has any locations that comes to mind it would be amazing.

Places I've looked at so far and am pretty positive to:
Athens, Greece. kinda expensive marina fee tho...
Kalamata, Greece. Seems a little too quiet..
Lisboa, Portugal. bad for sailing?
Ponta Delgada/sao Miguel, Azores. few young people? long flight..
Valencia, Spain. expensive?

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Corfu ?
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What's expensive.???
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What's expensive.???
The marinas I found in Athens were over 5000€ annually. Would like to pay less that this at least
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Old 23-10-2021, 22:39   #5
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You have a tall order. Mallorca, Ibiza or Valencia in Spain will deliver all except cheap. And the places that are cheap, won't be popular with young people, nice to sail and close to an airport easy to reach from Norway. Do you see a pattern here?

You'll have to decide, which trade-offs you're willing to accept. You might add the cost of transport for all the trip you're going in a year and the travel time lost to take there to cost of the marina for your evaluation. A marina which costs you 50€ more to get to and you expect to travel there 4 times a year is the same cost as one charging 200€ more.
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Palma de Mallorca has marinas in the centre of town and one of the biggest discos is just across the road. There is plenty to do including exploring the old town. and plenty bars to meet people. There are hundreds of restaurants including Cellar Supremsa which is not expensive. Great place to spend the winter and cheap car hire from Centauro rent a car so you can tour the island.
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Norway is not part of EU, take care about VAT regulation. My sister married a Greek 50years ago, so I know them, they even checked for driving licence, Italy too, but if money is a problem, Turkey is very welcoming, all Southern Tourist places have a Western lifestyle, many European retirees too, Cyprus might be a nice place too but could be a "little small".
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I am not sure how EU-Schenghen treats Norwegians but if you hv the 90/180 limitation then you are going to hv to limit yrself to non-schenghen.
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Current annual price in Póvoa de Varzim marina for your LOA is 1395 euros and it is ~25 min to Porto airport (OPO) by metro. It tends to be blustery in the winter and the nearby coastline is unremarkable until you (typically) tack up to Galicia.
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Try looking at Marina Badalona near Barcelona. Badalona itself has a youngish crowd on the beaches and in the restaurants. It's a 30 min metro trip to downtown Barcelona and the airport is accessible. It's less expensive due to being newish with fairly ugly surroundings but it's well positioned for sailing to the Costa Brava, Costa Dorada or the Balearic Islands. List price for 10m LOA is about €4,000 per year but the flights from Barcelona to Oslo can be as low as €70 one way at this time of year.
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I would include Cartagena in Spain as an option. 2 marinas there and a vibrant town.
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I would say a protected marina in a warmer country near a good town for under €3000 will not be easily done
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I would say a protected marina in a warmer country near a good town for under €3000 will not be easily done
If feeling brave, try Tunisia??
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The marinas I found in Athens were over 5000€ annually. Would like to pay less that this at least
No chance in the cities or the popular locations.. ya wanna go big you'll pay big.
If you want popular destinations, good sailing and marinas expect to pay high..
There's a reason a 10m boat only costs €1600/yr in Fig da Foz and €4000+ on the Algarve.
Now.. if your prepared to live on the hook while on the boat and only berth her when you fly home you'll more than halve that Athens/Mallorca high rate.
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Sevilla: marina or on the hook and with a bike you get every where.
(No problem to sail on the river to Sevilla.)
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