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12-09-2015, 15:48
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#31
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CF Adviser
Join Date: Oct 2007
Boat: Van Helleman Schooner 65ft StarGazer
Posts: 10,280
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Re: Thinking of Buying a French Boat?
Yes...we don't know how this particular deal was first made, ,so all of this is conjecture
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14-09-2015, 08:11
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#32
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 5,027
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Re: Thinking of Buying a French Boat?
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Originally Posted by Pelagic
We all cope with problems in different ways and sometimes just knowing someone is listening without judging or even trying to solve the problem...
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Understood and agreed.
Of course, the problem is that this is the internet. Someone is ALWAYS judging (and often rather harshly).
So, my advice to anyone who is feeling vulnerable, and who is looking for a safe place to vent, would be that you're probably NOT going to find it on the internet.
Good luck to the OP, however it works out.
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17-09-2015, 17:35
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#33
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2011
Location: St-Barthelemy Island, French West Indies
Boat: Ericson 34
Posts: 339
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Re: Thinking of Buying a French Boat?
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Originally Posted by SusanHynes
As depressed as I am, I appreciate your replies, I was extremely angry so I left out a few items I will address to all in the hopes of clearing the air.payment. In fact, we had offered the broker on several occassions to make the boat available for the Fall boat shows....Thank you all for the comments, I wish there was more to the story but there isn't, just a semi-old woman trying to change my life, save my health and do the one thing I love almost as much as my Grandchildren -- sailing.
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I'm very sad for what happened to you (I'm French AND Canadian) but why did you go for the biggest boat you could -almost- afford ? I'm 68 & had 5 sailboats (27, 31, 33, 34 & 34') & went a year ago to Lake Michigan to find me next one, a modest 34' Ericson ($35,000), so well built on the US West Coast in 1987 that the company went under I sailed the Atlantic & the Pacific & I can confirm that it is NOT the biggest sailboat that sail the farthest ! I sailed it to NY/NY with my son & then alone to the West Indies where I live/work & although the air fare & getting the boat offshore ready cost me around $5,000 it was my best holidays in years Good luck !
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17-09-2015, 19:47
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#34
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2011
Location: St-Barthelemy Island, French West Indies
Boat: Ericson 34
Posts: 339
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Re: Thinking of Buying a French Boat?
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Originally Posted by Robin3
Was this a French built beneteau or a USA built one? Beneteau own Jeanneau and DuFour too now I believe for the record. As others have said there is obviously much more to this story not being said. I wish you Good luck with sorting it and recovering your health too as I am sure all here will also.
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Nope ! Dufour does NOT belong to the "Groupe Beneteau". Beneteau own Beneteau, Lagoon, CNB & Jeanneau... That's it By the way, if I can, I'd love to sail a CNB across an ocean... any ocean ! Those are gorgeous semi-custom & custom masterpieces that we see every winter in St-Barth. What I like -among many things in these jewels- is the roll-in/roll-out dinghy in the transom Cool !
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18-09-2015, 07:03
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#35
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Atlantic ICW 29N/81W
Boat: Beneteau Oceanis 36CC, now sold
Posts: 823
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Re: Thinking of Buying a French Boat?
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Originally Posted by ALAIN97133
Nope ! Dufour does NOT belong to the "Groupe Beneteau". Beneteau own Beneteau, Lagoon, CNB & Jeanneau... That's it By the way, if I can, I'd love to sail a CNB across an ocean... any ocean ! Those are gorgeous semi-custom & custom masterpieces that we see every winter in St-Barth. What I like -among many things in these jewels- is the roll-in/roll-out dinghy in the transom Cool !
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Sorry, I heard the whispers wrong then, I owned a 1988 Jeanneau Sun Legende 41 for 10 years in Europe and my current 1998 Benny 36 is a French build, imported by the original and previous owner, via a USA Beneteau dealer to USA. Neither were bought new by me, that is above my pay grade, back then and for sure now, as a skint pensioner.
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18-09-2015, 11:12
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#36
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2011
Location: St-Barthelemy Island, French West Indies
Boat: Ericson 34
Posts: 339
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Answer from Northstar Yacht Sales
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Originally Posted by Siberianhusky
I would love to know the WHOLE story, can't see the company taking the hit shipping the boat back to europe to resell unless they fully believed the boat wouldn't be paid for. " and a few wrinkles in payments due" That really makes me wonder.......bet there is a lot more to this. Can't see Dufour pulling something like this unless the had the legal legs to stand on. They would have to figure it would end with lawyers, they would have a legal dept. to advise them after all.
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Remi
Thanks so much for bringing this to my attention. As you probably suspected there is another side to the story. I'm extremely disappointed that after all Dufour and Northstar Yacht Sales has done to accommodate their situation she chose to write a post that's not very truthful. I can assure we continue to work with them, no one has taken her money and the boat is sitting at my office. Please feel free to call me directly if you have any questions. Regards,
J.P. Skov, CPYB
Northstar Yacht Sales
401-683-9200 office
401-743-1536 Cell
I was also puzzled by the word "pledge" as in " we were able to pledge or deliver all but 25,000 on a 550,000"
PS: My cousin bought a 40' he can't handle alone... Now he's spending his time looking for crew I don't call that "freedom" !
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29-09-2015, 09:04
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#37
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 10
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Re: Thinking of Buying a French Boat?
From the beginning of the thread I was suspicious that DUFOUR sell directly to the end-user!
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11-10-2015, 12:23
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#38
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 3
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Re: Thinking of Buying a French Boat?
Susan - you sound like a nut job. Doubt the mfg went to the cost of shipping the boat back to france without good reason.
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