Cruisers Forum
 


Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 03-06-2016, 07:01   #1
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2010
Boat: Allied Seawind 30
Posts: 121
Small A/C unit for v-berth

So I've been looking into this for quite some time, heres what I've found:

There are not many small A/C compressors and the ones there are have pretty large power requirements (i.e. 40-50 amps at 12 volts). I have a mini-DC fridge that only draws 4 amps at 12 volts.

Is there any reason the compressor for the mini fridge can't be used to cool the small v-berth (only about 45 cubic feet)?
__________________
Sailor Keddy
https://sailorkeddy.com/
SailorKeddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2016, 07:07   #2
Registered User
 
ColdEH's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Toronto Canada
Boat: Bristol 45.5
Posts: 848
Images: 1
Re: Small A/C unit for v-berth

BTU thats the killer . Your little fridge probably generates around 200 btu per hour , a small v berth area may need around 4000 btu to cool the space on a hot day.

Take a look at these guys. This is probably what you are looking for .

12 Volt Air Conditioning | Boats, Trucks, Hot Rods | Cruise N Comfort

Regards
ColdEH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2016, 07:45   #3
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2010
Boat: Allied Seawind 30
Posts: 121
Re: Small A/C unit for v-berth

Well thats the thing. I'm not looking to make it 65 degrees on a hot day, just looking to go from like 85 to 77 at night, just to make it sleepable.

I just ran the calcs at an online BTU calculator, and thats actually 211 BTU/hr, for my 45 cubic foot v-berth with a change of 8 degrees F.

So it might work?? Maybe I could just get a fan to put over top of the portable DC fridge?
__________________
Sailor Keddy
https://sailorkeddy.com/
SailorKeddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2016, 08:37   #4
Registered User

Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: San Carlos, Mexico
Boat: Amel Maramu 48
Posts: 13
Re: Small A/C unit for v-berth

Don't forget that a refrigerator also produces heat.....
Chicane is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2016, 12:43   #5
Registered User

Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 673
Re: Small A/C unit for v-berth

check out small standalone room ACs. ours is 800w and will cool our small saloon down 6-7 degrees. We had to put in a 150mm sealable outlet to get the heat out. If we did use the batteries, it would flatten them in 2 hours. Boats get fairly hot and need plenty of energy to get that heat outside
dlymn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2016, 15:37   #6
Registered User

Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 253
Re: Small A/C unit for v-berth

Why not use this approach??
Jsta_Rebel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2016, 07:50   #7
Registered User
 
KadeyKrogen38's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Clear Lake, TX
Boat: Kadey Krogen 38
Posts: 236
Images: 1
Re: Small A/C unit for v-berth

Have you checked out the units that pump sea water from a hose that you put deep below the boat thru a set of coils that has a fan. Cheap and would probably provide the small amount of cooling you want.
KadeyKrogen38 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2016, 08:08   #8
Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: fl- various marinas
Boat: morgan O/I 33' sloop
Posts: 1,447
Re: Small A/C unit for v-berth

I suspect your comparing apples to oranges. Your refrigerator only draws 4 amps because it is only running a fraction of the time to maintain the temperature in a small insulated container. A better comparison might be to look at your power consumption when you leave the door wide open.
I also think your refrigerator is not designed for the much greater utilization and will tend to fail.
Dave22q is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2016, 08:24   #9
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Novato, California
Boat: Rafiki 37
Posts: 288
Re: Small A/C unit for v-berth

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jsta_Rebel View Post
Why not use this approach??
I have no idea how well they work but at $2.50 to $3 for a 10 lb bag of ice if you're a liveaboard the cost starts adding up.
kentobin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2016, 09:20   #10
Registered User

Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 253
Re: Small A/C unit for v-berth

Quote:
Originally Posted by kentobin View Post
I have no idea how well they work but at $2.50 to $3 for a 10 lb bag of ice if you're a liveaboard the cost starts adding up.
Agreed. We live on the hook and don't require any more that Caframo fans and open port lights, but for someone who wants comfort in the way of AC, what could be cheaper than this? 3.00 a bag of ice seems pretty cheap for a night of AC if you require it.
Jsta_Rebel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2016, 15:04   #11
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Ontario
Boat: Kolibri 12'sloop
Posts: 14
Re: Small A/C unit for v-berth

Who needs all that extra humidity
from ice?
ReneL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2016, 23:14   #12
Registered User
 
jessehunt's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Slidell, LA
Boat: Rhodes Pearson 41 sloop
Posts: 57
Re: Small A/C unit for v-berth

I made one of the small portable ones shown in the photo. Simple to make, but gets its cooling from a frozen 1 gal. milk jug, and doesn't last more than an hour or two, It cools OK initially, but I didn't find it a viable solution.
jessehunt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2016, 12:56   #13
Registered User
 
Shala's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: cruising mx
Boat: sceptre 41
Posts: 51
Re: Small A/C unit for v-berth

Quote:
Originally Posted by typhoon View Post
BTU thats the killer . Your little fridge probably generates around 200 btu per hour , a small v berth area may need around 4000 btu to cool the space on a hot day.

Take a look at these guys. This is probably what you are looking for .

12 Volt Air Conditioning | Boats, Trucks, Hot Rods | Cruise N Comfort

Regards
my question is: if you have a solar array that is capable of generating the 30-40 amps required to run this little device.... what will this do to your batteries in terms of heat and gas generation and also in terms of life expectancy of the batts?
Shala is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
For Sale: Benmar Power unit, course keeper 210 binnacle and raytheon Radar unit Bryan Hendrix Classifieds Archive 5 21-12-2013 14:53
Looking for a 40-47 ft 3-berth w/pullman, not v berth YoloSF Monohull Sailboats 20 09-10-2013 11:34
For Sale: Harken MK3 unit ONE roller furling unit megayachtec Classifieds Archive 3 23-06-2012 21:45
A New Berth - Adding a Fold-Down Pilot Berth to our W32 blahman Construction, Maintenance & Refit 4 04-12-2011 12:44
How Small Is Too Small? grovernors Liveaboard's Forum 121 20-09-2010 03:07

Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:58.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.