Single Women Living Aboard and Cruising... an honest look

[goat]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Your details.. along with this post have been forwarded to the LBGT blah blah Society..

Thanks a lot Phil. :^(
Just heard from the lawyers for the LGBTAEIOUand sometimesY group. I think I went too far this time....again.

Gamayun, that's the worst. acronym. ever.

This is one of my favourite threads of all time.

I have always said, all men are assho!es, all women are bitche5. There's just differing levels within all of us. If you're looking for someone, it's just a matter of finding one without more of those fine qualities than you can put up with.

goat

[kmacdonald]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Call me a control freak but.. biggrin:

Control freak.

[weavis]

I sail out of Huelva or Cadiz.

I dont sail out from the River. The River is what I have here, the weekends or 2,3, 4 days is when I sail out to Portugal or down the coast...

Mud is how I can do a thousand+ sea miles a year. Without it life would just be....mud.

Im hoping this year to sail to the top of Portugal and then back again... And I also want to go to Mallorca again via boat.

I have no interest in other cruising areas for now...

The proclivities of men on the soil cannot be any different to those sailing. Good and bad everywhere. Thieving is a national pastime here in Spain as you well know. I have seen it in certain places on the water however: I dont hire crews, I dont go places with a poor reputation and Im as careful as I can be. As a fairly frequent 1-4 day sailor for 45 years, non professional, I keep to myself.

As you know the UK, the waters around Fleetwood are pretty horrendous. I would do Fleetwood, Dublin, Isle of Man etc every 6 weeks or so. Morecambe bay is treacherous. Ive had 30 feet under the keels and then hit the bottom. It was where I learned to boat for 24 years. Id put a competent Morecambe bay sailor in any environment and he or she would do fine..

DO I want to be a full time cruiser? I lived on a boat for 1.5 years and commuted to work on it but again local area.

Do I want to deliver vessels? No.

Do I want to be on a boat frequently? I am. River and Sea. There are no long gaps between.

I get what I want out of cruising. My experience is limited in terms of real long trips but the reality is that I get bored after a week or so just seeing water.. I have little or no interest in working in boatyards or in a boating environment per se... Oh I did sail from Blackpool to Mallorca a long time ago. 2000 miles.

The reality is most "cruisers" go to an area and then either stay put or gently meander to another spot and stay for a while.

I like the Med. It will take a lifetime to see it all.

And I dont take offence at anything you wrote.

[Exile]

Originally Posted by goat

There are a couple groups I've found for misogynistic and misandristic solo sailors;

Forever alone guys sailing,

and

Ladies enjoying sailing by our selves.

They're both looking for good acronyms. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

goat

Originally Posted by gamayun

Sailors?

How about just misanthropic sailors? (sorry no acronym, just like that word)

[john61ct]

When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like Oppression

Special snowflakes whining about "reverse discrimination" really get my goat.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Misandry

https://jezebel.com/5992479/if-i-adm...lling-prophecy

https://amp.theguardian.com/sustaina...ible-privilege

[Exile]

I know you prefer pronouncements over dialogue, so I'm not expecting any sort of response . . .

Originally Posted by john61ct

I don't see how promiscuity, "gold digging" or even choosing to engage in explicit sex work, is in **any** way comparable to sexual abuse by an older / stronger / boss / employer.

That's good because I can't imagine anyone else would either. But I'm sure you'd agree that broad brush, derogatory statements against entire racial or gender groups is pretty bad, regardless of what those allegations actually entail.

As long as no coercing or deception is involved, there's nothing immoral about the former categories.

Depends on one's perspective and not just yours. But "immorality" has not been brought up so not sure why you're doing so now.

And of course either sex can take any of those roles.

Indeed.

It's pretty easy to see how being isolated on a boat would exacerbate the issues of abuse,

Really? How so? And doesn't someone who's suffered abuse have a responsibility to him or herself not to get on a boat with someone he/she knows is abusive?

which are in fact very commonplace in nearly all social scenarios.

Abuse is 'very commonplace in nearly all social scenarios'?? Really?

Only those relatively unaffected by such threats have the dubious privilege of demanding objective evidence for something as obvious as the preceding statement.

Oh I get it. It's so "obvious" that we can dispense with any truth-finding process for both accuser & accused. Why go through the trouble of looking at evidence, objective or otherwise. Or maybe you just don't like the results of the CDC research surveys which found that the ratio of physical & psychological abuse between women & men is much closer than commonly thought. Why do you think so many have a misperception about this?

[Exile]

Originally Posted by john61ct

When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like Oppression

Special snowflakes whining about "reverse discrimination" really get my goat.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Misandry

https://jezebel.com/5992479/if-i-adm...lling-prophecy

https://amp.theguardian.com/sustaina...ible-privilege

Based on your choice of opinion articles, your perspective is perfectly understandable. Understanding other perspectives, however, requires reading opinion pieces from authors & experts you do not agree with. You can start with female authors who also describe themselves as feminists but who vehemently object to the path modern feminism has taken.

Btw, there's no sense letting opinions you disagree with get your goat when we have our very own goat lurking around here.

[evm1024]

I work at a University with a hospital (or it it a Hospital with a University).

The shift in attitudes is sweeping since I was a student.

Start here for some insight:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIOX1hVRE8Y

[Exile]

Originally Posted by evm1024

I work at a University with a hospital (or it it a Hospital with a University).

The shift in attitudes is sweeping since I was a student.

Start here for some insight:

Ah yes, this explains John61's aversion to objective evidence of abuse. It's a world where logic & reason is only applied to assumptions that are inherently illogical & irrational, but fit the narrative & support their own, made-up terminology so must be OK. Even math is now called a tool of white male privilege & oppression. I suppose it's where victimology & group think has taken us, and like any religion based more on faith than reason, has converts who resist and even feel a right to immunity from contrary ideas. A safe space which is only illusory and ultimately provides no safety from the world whatsoever.

[weavis]

Lets move on.

Deletions are starting.

[cyan]

Originally Posted by weavis

Lets try this on CF.
We can all treat each other as equal as sailors...

Sunsets!
Sunsets are not equal.
Women, on average, get to enjoy more colors than men.
(thin skin? ha! Thin this)

Most sailors love sunsets (and sunrises) for that matter, but men and women literally see them differently for the most part. I mentioned earlier that we should celebrate the differences in genders. This is an odd difference in which I have a ton of experience due to my profession.

Women, on average, see colors differently than men. There are scientific reasons that involve the retina cone information carried in the X chromosome, blah blah blah. The point is that there are beautiful saturated colors in sunsets that some women (maybe 12%) can see, which no man can see. (Google tetrachromacy for details.) I am convinced the number is a bit higher.

I find this to be AWESOME. In modern politically correct speak, it is frowned upon to point out gender differences like upper body strength, spatial perception, and language proficiency. Why? Because if there is a superior-gender trait on average, then this is of course an inferior-gender trait on the opposite side. The participation-trophy crowd doesn't want one group to feel bad. Boo hoo. This just covers up reality and prevents good discussion and understanding.

I declare that the "thin-skinned" guys on CF shall embrace the superior ability of the female sailor to witness ocean sunsets, on average. We would be smart to ask women to describe what they see.

Vive la difference!
No?

[boatman61]

Its been obvious women see more than men for yonks..
How many men have you heard saying "Wow..!!! she's got a beautiful aura.."
Women say it all the time.. blue through to pink being their favourites..

[weavis]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Its been obvious women see more than men for yonks..
How many men have you heard saying "Wow..!!! she's got a beautiful aura.."
Women say it all the time.. blue through to pink being their favourites..

Oy!! Its different...

[john61ct]

Originally Posted by Exile

CDC

I explicitly stated my comments were not placing any sex, nor gender, into the role of abuser or victim

[CaptJamesCook]

Was this thread to give insight to Single Women living aboard and crusing by the women? Or the male impression of such?
Read most of this thread But for the life of me I have no clue as to its Direction or subject..or thread title. Do I need a testosterone boost? Or What?


Seems to me from the ones I have met. They are not much different than the Single Female Landlubber. They are all special in any given moment.
Same as the single male counterparts.