Single Men Living Aboard and Cruising... an honest look.

[fuentes]

Originally Posted by gamayun

Forgiveness, Ann. Yes, it's human nature to not want to let go of the anger toward those who hurt us or to seek revenge of past wrongs, but it's absolutely, positively critical to forgive so we can lead rich and rewarding lives whether single by choice or not. I would argue that forgiveness is the only way that can happen.

The way I see this, is that forgiving is not for the benefit of the other person. It is making you free to be able to move on. So in reality, you are helping yourself. The other half is their problem!
Has anyone read Mother Teresa's "Anyway" . If you have not and are unable to get it, I can put the whole thing on here. I keep a copy on the boat and on my desk at the ranch. It sure helps me deal with everyday "situations". Have a nice day!

[fuentes]

Originally Posted by weavis

Now you see.. you could be my kind of woman on one level with this I.P. go getting attitude.....

Forgive my ignorance. What is "I.P."? We farm boys don't get out much.

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by daletournier

Heaven or hell exists, single or coupled.

Trouble is heaven exists for 440,000 while the rest are doomed to hell..

[weavis]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Trouble is heaven exists for 440,000 while the rest are doomed to hell..

er.. less than that boatie... 144,000, I just checked for your name... I will check again in case I missed it.....

[weavis]

Originally Posted by fuentes

Forgive my ignorance. What is "I.P."? We farm boys don't get out much.

[weavis]

Originally Posted by gamayun

Ha, ha! I can see having more than one IP on a boat, but getting rid of of one of the boats....? One of us would have to break first (Oh, and it would not be me)

Well, we could tow one of the vessels. If an argument arose, the the vessel could be utilised for some huffy time until forgiveness was in the air.

We could alternate towing each others...

This is mine...

[Exile]

Originally Posted by weavis

Well, we could tow one of the vessels. If an argument arose, the the vessel could be utilised for some huffy time until forgiveness was in the air.

We could alternate towing each others...

This is mine...

And the fast-get-away helo could be hers.

[weavis]

Originally Posted by Exile

And the fast-get-away helo could be hers.

No.. she has a Freedom.

Thats mine...

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by weavis

er.. less than that boatie... 144,000, I just checked for your name... I will check again in case I missed it.....

Don't bother.. I've a long standing reservation at the Devils Fork Bar and Grill..

[Exile]

Originally Posted by weavis

No.. she has a Freedom.

Thats mine...

I always thought the way it worked was what's your's is their's, what's their's is their's, and what's our's is their's? Other than probably way too many apostrophes in that statement, did I get that wrong?

[Pelagic]

Originally Posted by fuentes

..... It is very difficult to feel as if you are having fun when you are peeping in your pampers.
Now I will get cussed out for taking this tread in another direction.?

Not at all as I think you just explained Einstein's theory of relativity to all of us

[wolfgal]

Originally Posted by Exile

Hmmmm . . . I'm not so sure that a long list of what we want in a partner is such a hot idea. To the extent any sort of list is helpful, maybe it should be one that lists what we have to give?

So much has happened, and i'm up way past my bedtime... (To be able to require only three hours of sleep! Or at least a descent level of rouseability - is this word in the dictionary?)


Exile, i agree with you there. Seems like you should have a lot of success when you bring your dog with you... as his list of good qualities/ways to give has got to be pretty long. :big grin:


Gamayun, you have a good point here: one doesn't necessarily need to be in a couple to feel complete. My feeling is that this lesson is absent from stories little girls read when children: Cinderella, Snow White... Seems like wherever there is a Prince in dreamland, there is disillusion in the real. i wonder just how much harm these stories do, especially if they are followed up with playing with Barbie dolls. (i never had/wanted any, thank goodness!)


Zee, you brought up being lonely vs being alone. i agree with many here: being alone can be wonderful. i really enjoy it ... most of the time. like Pelagic, i can only take so much of having guests. i'm hoping that once the self-confidence kicks in, i'll like it even more. yet, for those moments when i do need some company, i appreciate coming here to hang out with you guys and gals (it really seems that all of you here either really have it together or are giving all you've got). once i get this kind of social dynamic happening in my little cockpit, i'm sure i'll be smiling.


Ann, you got it right, again, when you spoke of the need to figure out what is not quite right within ourselves before thinking about a relationship. unfortunately, when we realize that we need to forgive others and fix ourselves instead of blaming, so much time has usually passed (or, in some cases, so much alcohol gets drunk, sadly enough). and it really feels as though life is getting shorter so quickly now! That said, I'm so glad you and Jim met that day could we open a Happy Couples thread?

ok am super tired, so this is a goofy thought: i'm trying to figure the different kinds of couples: live-together couples, live-on-different-boats couples, live-in-different-dimension couples (this is when one disappears, and the other hangs out with ghost)... any others?


I've got a question for Weavis, does the IP thing need to be plugged in? Doesn't look solar to me...

[Olddan1943]

That "desired list of qualities" just might fall overboard after the 3rd drink too.
The next day, the exchange might be, "Remember, it didn't happen because I was too drunk to remember it, or, it didn't happen because I didn't enjoy it or or or." The one that can scare a guy is when she says, "I hope you wore a condom." LOL

[weavis]

Originally Posted by Chichi

I've got a question for Weavis, does the IP thing need to be plugged in? Doesn't look solar to me...

1 kilowatt electric. Needs plugging in...

[weavis]

Relationships have their own ebb and flow. The secret is to be mature enough to accept mood swings and reactions and differences as part of individuality and not a criticism of the other or the relationship. I think kindness and long suffering and forgiveness are part of a successful union. An individual is still going to be themselves in a relationship as well as out of it... the other person, if of a different temperament might struggle until accepts it..

Given the situation where two people have a strong passion for something, like sailing and in the funny scenario presented here, where one is going to keep their vessel no matter what....

Is there any REAL chance of a relationship working for them? Instead of sharing, there is a situation where money will have to be spent on two vessels and it really does become "whats mine is mine" and a shared ideal becomes secondary to the individual desires and wants. Its complicated. For a successful relationship, it take two people working hard for a shared goal and enjoying the journey together.

For anyone who has been hurt in a relationship, or had a bad experience, it is singularly the hardest thing to ever trust another person again. One tends to become insular and self reliant. It is my opinion that what is created is a block to committing to a relationship totally, and that THIS is why relationships fail, not because it needs to, but because the commitment has so many strings attached emotionally that if one issue arises.. its over...

I can tell stories!!