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19-11-2016, 14:14
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#181
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Oakland, CA
Boat: Freedom 38
Posts: 2,331
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Re: Single, Female, and living aboard?
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Originally Posted by Celestialsailor
By any chance...is that your Freedom? 
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Yes, that's Kynntana! LOVE that boat
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19-11-2016, 14:29
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#182
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Oakland, CA
Boat: Freedom 38
Posts: 2,331
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Re: Single, Female, and living aboard?
I do cringe when I watch that video and see the things I could have done better or the missed teachable moments such as when Sophie twice reached through the wheel to shift the gear lever. Argh. Teaching others is tough work, but women teaching women seems to be a big confidence booster for these new sailors.It's a great model for other clubs.
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19-11-2016, 16:52
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#183
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Moderator
Join Date: May 2008
Location: cruising SW Pacific
Boat: Jon Sayer 1-off 46 ft fract rig sloop strip plank in W Red Cedar
Posts: 17,607
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Re: Single, Female, and living aboard?
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women teaching women seems to be a big confidence booster for these new sailors.It's a great model for other clubs.
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And, as you have noted, it is really good for the instructor as well! There's nothing to stimulate learning better than trying to teach someone else. My Ann is always suggesting that women take lessons with and from other women, and I agree.
It's too bad that there are so many shouting, abusive male skippers, but they sure are there in the real world. And it isn't always directed at females. I once quit as a "hired gun" on someone else's race boat when they couldn't stop shouting and generally abusive behavior... and he was a mental health worker! I lasted one race...
So, good onya for your efforts... keep it up!
Jim
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21-11-2016, 13:34
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#184
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Germantown, TN
Boat: 1985 S2 9.2C
Posts: 82
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Re: Single, Female, and living aboard?
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Originally Posted by Tetepare
Hey Gamayun, thanks for sharing that! Great story, great video!
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Concur.
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21-11-2016, 17:52
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#185
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Oakland, CA
Boat: Freedom 38
Posts: 2,331
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Re: Single, Female, and living aboard?
Someone said to me the other day that the louder the skipper, the slower the boat (with respect to racing) because there is a delay for people reacting to the yelling first, and then responding to the commands next. It is extremely counter-productive and damaging in many ways particularly when people don't come back for more time on the boat. I've always wondered how people don't see this.
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21-11-2016, 18:22
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#186
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Easton, MD
Boat: 15' Catboat, Bristol 35.5
Posts: 3,090
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Re: Single, Female, and living aboard?
If the crew knew what they were doing the captain would not have to yell.
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21-11-2016, 18:47
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#187
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Whoo! Finally made it back to Mexico!
Boat: Cheoy Lee Offshore 38
Posts: 1,460
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Re: Single, Female, and living aboard?
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Originally Posted by kmacdonald
If the crew knew what they were doing the captain would not have to yell.
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I bet you sail alone a lot don't you?
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21-11-2016, 18:49
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#188
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Gig Harbor, WA
Boat: Prior boats: Transpac 49; DeFever 54
Posts: 2,874
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Re: Single, Female, and living aboard?
And I always thought that the screaming was just therapeutic for the skipper! Phil
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21-11-2016, 18:51
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#189
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: So Cal
Boat: Catalina 387
Posts: 964
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Re: Single, Female, and living aboard?
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Originally Posted by Jim Cate
It's too bad that there are so many shouting, abusive male skippers, but they sure are there in the real world.
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Yup. And there isn't any reason at all to yell unless the weather is really up and the foredeck can't hear. Yelling does not make anything faster, better, or more pleasant. So why yell?
I'll never sail twice with a yeller. I never yell at anybody on my boat. I'm sure it puts a lot of lasses off the sport when they're being bellowed at when they're newbies. (Guys too, I'm sure)
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21-11-2016, 19:47
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#190
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: DFW
Boat: wanting a cat
Posts: 509
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Re: Single, Female, and living aboard?
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Originally Posted by kmacdonald
If the crew knew what they were doing the captain would not have to yell.
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How many people can you yell at on a catalina 22? If you want to be a real dick, you need a bigger boat...
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21-11-2016, 20:45
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#191
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Easton, MD
Boat: 15' Catboat, Bristol 35.5
Posts: 3,090
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Re: Single, Female, and living aboard?
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Originally Posted by meatservo
How many people can you yell at on a catalina 22? If you want to be a real dick, you need a bigger boat...
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Hmmmmmmm..........looks like you're still wanting a boat.
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21-11-2016, 22:44
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#192
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Oakland, CA
Boat: Freedom 38
Posts: 2,331
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Re: Single, Female, and living aboard?
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Originally Posted by kmacdonald
If the crew knew what they were doing the captain would not have to yell.
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Do you seriously believe this?
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30-11-2016, 20:16
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#193
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Mexico
Boat: Sold Catalina 250
Posts: 203
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Re: Single, Female, and living aboard?
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Originally Posted by kmacdonald
If the crew knew what they were doing the captain would not have to yell.
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Only one word needed, WOW!
Really how productive? I have only seen real quiet under comand when things are going bad,
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30-11-2016, 20:29
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#194
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Gig Harbor, WA
Boat: Prior boats: Transpac 49; DeFever 54
Posts: 2,874
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Re: Single, Female, and living aboard?
The only time my old skipper yelled at me, I was sound asleep in my bunk and the towboat I was working on hit Shearingham Rock in the Straits of Juan de Fula and the barge we were towing ran up and over our towboat, rolled her and sank her.
The hollering the skipper did that February night probably saved my life! Mind you, he had something important to say...
Christ, that water was cold! Phil
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30-11-2016, 20:43
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#195
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Cruising the Gulf of Mexico.
Boat: 1980 Morgan 415
Posts: 1,452
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Single, Female, and living aboard?
I have spent a large part of my life around loud individuals. I prefer loud and concise instruction to forever having to say "Huh?"
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