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01-09-2016, 17:21
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#31
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Portland, OR
Boat: 40' Bayliner Bodega
Posts: 36
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Re: Shopping for insurance - admit it's a liveaboard or not?
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Originally Posted by boatman61
come on folks.. you think anyones gonna come down and check..??
Duhhhhh..!!
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Recreational insurance coverage clearly excludes residential status, voiding coverage and claims. Not worth the risk, IMO.
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01-09-2016, 19:39
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#33
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Portland, OR
Boat: 40' Bayliner Bodega
Posts: 36
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Re: Shopping for insurance - admit it's a liveaboard or not?
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Originally Posted by boatman61
I guess its all down to whether they plan to travel.. or use it as a houseboat...
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Both! With the appropriate insurance!
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01-09-2016, 20:14
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#34
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL
Posts: 923
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Re: Shopping for insurance - admit it's a liveaboard or not?
I'm kind of surprised that a marine lender will finance a liveaboard.
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02-09-2016, 05:05
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#35
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S/V rubber ducky
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Bahamas cruising currently
Boat: Hunter 410
Posts: 17,650
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Re: Shopping for insurance - admit it's a liveaboard or not?
the moral is that the internet is full of stories
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jobless, houseless, clueless, living on a boat and cruising around somewhere
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02-09-2016, 05:40
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#36
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 425
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Re: Shopping for insurance - admit it's a liveaboard or not?
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Originally Posted by pdxgrl33
Hello All:
We're about to buy our first liveaboard (40' Bayliner). Just received a very clean survey back, with all experts saying we've found a very solid boat. This boat will be our residence, docked at a marina.
We are receiving mixed messages about insurance shopping, with some people saying that we must disclose that it will be a liveaboard, and others saying not to tell and call it a recreational boat. We will be financing the purchase, and some have suggested that the insurance company will speak to the lender and the deal could fall through if we disclose that it's a liveaboard. We're concerned about having the correct insurance. So..... what say you? Thanks very much!
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Bayliners are not worth any real money, and you don't need one to liveaboard. Check out any number of designs that will cost less, do not need to be financed, and are much more comfortable at the dock. Such as a small houseboat.
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02-09-2016, 05:49
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#37
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 239
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Re: Shopping for insurance - admit it's a liveaboard or not?
Many insurance companies (especially sub standard ones) exclude drivers not on policy. So if you are driving a vehicle insured this way you and the person who has the insurance won't be covered
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02-09-2016, 07:16
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#38
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Portland, OR
Boat: 40' Bayliner Bodega
Posts: 36
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Re: Shopping for insurance - admit it's a liveaboard or not?
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Originally Posted by sailnow2011
Bayliners are not worth any real money, and you don't need one to liveaboard.
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Well, thanks for the input, but our offer is in progress, we like the boat and the survey was pretty clean. Guess we'll see if we made the right choice or not.
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02-09-2016, 07:19
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#39
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Portland, OR
Boat: 40' Bayliner Bodega
Posts: 36
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Re: Shopping for insurance - admit it's a liveaboard or not?
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Originally Posted by sailorboy1
the moral is that the internet is full of stories
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Indeed!
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02-09-2016, 07:53
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#40
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Whitby, Canada
Boat: Morgan Out Island 41
Posts: 1,328
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Re: Shopping for insurance - admit it's a liveaboard or not?
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Originally Posted by sailpower
I'm kind of surprised that a marine lender will finance a liveaboard.
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When I financed my 34' sailboat 18 years ago (as a liveaboard) The financing company didn't ask what the intended use of the vessel was. and that was RBC ( Royal bank) who isn't known for throwning money around. There's a reason they regularly are the most profitable of the big banks!
My last 2 boats I've purchased without financing ( but weren't liveaboards) this last one though will be in a few years. but no financing this time
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02-09-2016, 09:18
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#41
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Maryland, USA
Boat: 42' Sportfish
Posts: 4,519
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Re: Shopping for insurance - admit it's a liveaboard or not?
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Originally Posted by sailnow2011
Bayliners are not worth any real money, and you don't need one to liveaboard.
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Pretty fast and loose, with that description.
There are Bayliners (16-24' runabouts), and then there are Bayliners (25-35' express boats, and then there are Bayliners (35-50' bridge boats, newer ones mostly branded Meridian). Cost and efficacy obviously varies.
Sounds like OP's target suits the mission.
-Chris
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02-09-2016, 11:34
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#42
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Portland, OR
Boat: 40' Bayliner Bodega
Posts: 36
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Re: Shopping for insurance - admit it's a liveaboard or not?
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Originally Posted by ranger42c
Pretty fast and loose, with that description.
Sounds like OP's target suits the mission.
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Thanks for your input. This 40' Bayliner does indeed fit our mission and, although everyone has an opinion, overall the feedback on the Bodega has been positive. Among the many pluses, very large living space for a boat of this size. We're going to choose to remain positive and optimistic about the pending choice.
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04-09-2016, 23:06
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#43
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Arizona/Rhode Island
Boat: Swan 432
Posts: 818
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Re: Shopping for insurance - admit it's a liveaboard or not?
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Originally Posted by boatman61
If you go for a 6month/1year cruise down to the islands your a bludi liveaboard.. come on folks.. you think anyones gonna come down and check..??
Duhhhhh..!!
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Lying to an insurance company is stupid. Why would any adult risk their investment to save a few bucks is beyond me. They employe people who look over claims to see if they can find a legal way out of paying the claim.
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