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Old 15-12-2017, 14:34   #31
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I have simply safe in my home. Would work great on the boat. I donít even have it connected To cell service. The alarm is really loud and would scare me away.
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If there are other liveaboards there in the marina, it will be a good bet for you. People, who will be your new friends if you make the effort, will notice when others approach your boat, as you will, theirs, when you happen to be around. A marina with liveaboards always has less petty theft, too. The people and their dogs (where permitted) help keep away the thieves.

The sensors, etc., are cool, too, but a community is also good protection.

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I had an Aussie that would chew some ones face off if they got near my pickup. I believe getting a dog from county to country is the problem.

An Aussie has nothing to do with Australia.
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Joshua Slocum used tacks, and they worked but only if the intruders are barefoot or are wearing very thin soled footwear!!
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Old 15-12-2017, 14:59   #34
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Hello cruisers,

I've got a question for anybody who lives or has lived on the hook while working full time. How did you secure your boat when leaving it unattended for hours at a time? I'll be in the Portland area, and while I plan on staying in a marina I have thought a little about anchoring somewhere secluded and just renting a slip for my skiff. That way I'd still have access to showers, ice, and laundry, but actually live somewhere quiet and away from the hustle and bustle of a busy marina. The major downside I've considered is the presence of the floating shantytowns around there, and I would be worried about someone robbing or stealing my boat.

How was your experience living on the hook, security-wise? Any incidents? What steps did you take to make sure your property was protected?

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I leave my clothes and shoes lying around to trip the robbers up so that they fall and break their necks. So far never came back to find any bodies or even some blood!
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Old 15-12-2017, 15:04   #35
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A good weapon for defense while on board is a loaded flare gun.
Legal to have.
useless as a weapon unless you maybe shot them in the eye (do a web search). Either way it is probably a good way to turn a chicken sh*t thief into a crazy killer.
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Old 15-12-2017, 15:06   #36
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Sir Francis Chichester would scatter tacks on the deck at night.
But this works best against bare feet.
I was not Chitchester who put out the tacks but Joshua Slocum in the straits of Magellan on his round the world voyage on Spray.( Multiple stops)
Chitchester was on Gypsy Moth first solo round the world voyage on Gypsy Moth 1V taking one stop in Austrailia. Gypsy Moth 111 is in Gouvia Marina Corfu as we speak! She took part in the first solo transatlantic race.
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Old 15-12-2017, 15:29   #37
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A good weapon for defense while on board is a loaded flare gun.
Legal to have.
also good way to set the boat afire
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Old 15-12-2017, 15:46   #38
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OP: Just put the boat in a marina. This is not a fun place to be living on the hook, especially in the - very wet - winter.The Columbia river is too exposed to the winter blasts out of the gorge, trees floating downstream at 3 knots during the runoff, and the wakes of ships and boats all year, so not really an option. We have a law now that requires anchored boats to move to a new location, at least 5 miles from the previous one, every month IIRC. So now we see a flotilla of about 20 boats on the Willamette that move en mass every month (possibly more than one group). Join them and some might try to watch for you and others might try to rip you off, just like a homeless camp here. If you have a full time job you can afford to avoid this miserable existence.

FWIW I have lived for years on the hook, and in the right situation it is truly enjoyable - security problems notwithstanding. Portland isn't such a place.

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Old 15-12-2017, 16:31   #39
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Portland is America right?

The answer would have to be guns.
You're exactly right. Guns solve many problems. The best part is, they solve some problems permantently.
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Old 15-12-2017, 20:07   #40
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Sir Francis Chichester would scatter tacks on the deck at night.
But this works best against bare feet.
It was not Chichester, but Joshua Slocum in a different era.
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OP: Just put the boat in a marina. This is not a fun place to be living on the hook, especially in the - very wet - winter.The Columbia river is too exposed to the winter blasts out of the gorge, trees floating downstream at 3 knots during the runoff, and the wakes of ships and boats all year, so not really an option. We have a law now that requires anchored boats to move to a new location, at least 5 miles from the previous one, every month IIRC. So now we see a flotilla of about 20 boats on the Willamette that move en mass every month (possibly more than one group). Join them and some might try to watch for you and others might try to rip you off, just like a homeless camp here. If you have a full time job you can afford to avoid this miserable existence.

FWIW I have lived for years on the hook, and in the right situation it is truly enjoyable - security problems notwithstanding. Portland isn't such a place.

Greg

This is the answer and information I was looking for, someone with personal experience in the unique area I'm talking about. I do not trust the floating shantytown residents, although I admit I don't know them and could be wrong. Hopefully the boat I'm looking at in a few days is as advertised, in which case I can simply take over the slip lease in a liveaboard friendly marina. I just like to have all the available information for all the options....no surprises.
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You're exactly right. Guns solve many problems. The best part is, they solve some problems permantently.
The anniversary of the Sandy Hook massacre was 2 days ago. Guns suck.
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Old 16-12-2017, 14:25   #43
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To Scout 30, guns, like automobiles suck when in the hands of the wrong individual. Guns still kill far less than autos but most everybody uses a vehicle daily, so it's accepted in today's society. A gun is a great deterrent, in the right hands. Bet there are a few sailors out there that would have liked to have had a firearm at one time or other!!
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While I appreciate all the feedback and comments keeping my post at the top, this is not the venue to debate the 2nd Amendment. I specifically asked about security while I'm not on board, which makes this debate pointless and childish.

Please stay on topic and keep it civil!

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I am on the west coast of Florida. The local USTOW Swings by my boat to check it. It is amazing what a couple cases of beer now and then gets you.
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