Newbs Leaving Everything to Sail the World..

[leftbrainstuff]

Originally Posted by AdventureWorld

The plan is to leave everything behind come April 2016..

Three high school friends (30 yrs old now)all pooling our money together to purchase a live aboard cruiser, which will eventually be used to create income through guided trips.

Out of the Three of us.. Two are total beginners and one has over 5+ years experience and his Captains License..

Our budget looks to be around 130k

Depending on if we want to do over night trips with guests or not will depend on how many berths we need..

if we just did day trips.. we would still want at least 3 cabins and 2 heads to to live comfortably enough.. we can rough it,, but this will be our home..

we want to explore and see the whole world.. but mostly we prefer warm tropical weather.. we love Thailand!

I want.. a Catamaran.. 40'+
for the safety, speed, shallow draft, living space, privacy, no heel, etc etc..

please point me in the right direction ...

our plan is to fly to Florida Area and look for a yacht in April...

what can i be doing to prepare?

i know opening a business in foreign countries can be difficult..

does our vessels flag matter? etc

tips/advice/direction anything helpful is appreciated..

thanks


-ADVENTURE WORLD!!!

Why buy in Florida when you want to be in Thailand? The US is however a great place to outfit and upgrade a yacht.

We are Australians and we bought on the west coast of the US. We live and work in the same locale. We bought when the Aussie dollar was higher than the US. Timing is key.

It took 10 months for us to finalize our Aus ship registration. I wont bore you with the details.

Does your budget assume you'll be earning money immediately? That would be rare for that to happen.

Your budget is low. Few make money from chartering. You need a good boat and five star service for chartering.

SV Delos have a strong following but even they cant make a living on thenwater.

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[AdventureWorld]

wow! lots of information coming in now! thank you all so much.. will respond when i have more time! thank you!

[american]

Originally Posted by leftbrainstuff

SV Delos have a strong following but even they cant make a living on thenwater.

Delos collects 4600+USD per video via Patreon. If they do one video per month, that's 55kUSD per year.

https://www.patreon.com/svdelos

Not saying the rest of us could be so lucky with support from viewers, but it does seem that at least for Delos they are able to "make a living" from their following. No?

[SV THIRD DAY]

Originally Posted by AdventureWorld

Anyone have advice for avoiding a life of bribes and the glares of locals?

Sure...don't go into their Country and work illegally as a charter boat....

Well you did ask.

[Jim Cate]

Originally Posted by SV THIRD DAY

Sure...don't go into their Country and work illegally as a charter boat....

Well you did ask.

He did ask, but will he listen to the answer??

Well put, BTW!

Jim

[Kenomac]

Originally Posted by korrigan

"I'm sorry but that sounds like an empty meaningless life to me. I can't imagine even wanting that. Such a life sounds like a prison with gold plated walls to me.

I can only imagine that people who enjoy such a life are unimaginative, uninteresting, and unworthy of respect. Everything about them including sailing is just a put on." Korrigan



Response:

You're very naive. A70 ft boat is not that big of a boat, over here in the Med we regularly see luxury boats that crane on 40-50ft toy boats and dinghy's to compliment their helicopters and other toys. Right now, I'm anchored next to a 175ft toy box tender for a mothership. The usual 250-450ft mothership is also just another toy for the mega wealthy owner, who is definitely not a slave to the boat... and the "servants" as you call them are not the owners slaves... they are professional crew who appreciate their careers and opportunities offered by the rich owners.

It's a livestyle few in the U.S. who sail only coastal waters will ever see or understand. Florida has a few Mega yachts like I've described.

Here's a picture of the 175ft Toy Box boat taken just a couple of minutes ago.

[AdventureWorld]

Originally Posted by s/v Moondancer

First it is over 10,000nm from Florida to Thailand...much better to buy a boat where you hope to use it. The Moorings have a brokerage system that sells boats based in their charter bases throughout the world.

The real problem is that the moment you put a sign on a dock offering daysails the local competition will call their cousin in the immigration service and have you arrested unless you have paid the often expensive local fees to open a business.

It will be hard on your budget to find a boat that the tourists will find attractive.

Good luck

thanks, we would be willing to travel wherever we thought we could find the best deal..

[AdventureWorld]

where does your money go the farthest for 30-50ft Cats?

i've heard the Caribbean,, South Africa,, Panama...

[JanetGroene]

In every port I visit where people offer day charters, there are too many boats competing for too few paying passengers. Might work if you have a built-in buyership such as your alumni association or other group. Bronson Hartley was very successful in doing day trips in Nassau in winter, Bermuda in summer. (His son may still be in the business). He worked VERY hard at marketing, giving free nightly slide shows to hotel guests to solicit bookings. It made for very long days for him but he succeeded with a great product, a great personality and a a very vigorous sales program.

[jamhass]

Although there blog seems to have been discontinued, you might check out s/v SohCahToa. 3 guys, one boat (A Lafitte 44), around the world on a budget from the Seattle area. SohCahToa is currently for sale in Seattle on Yachtworld for 67500.

Another 3 guy attempt is well-described at: Syzygy Sailing and its companion maintenance log at: Maintenance Log for Syzygy. This latter group, in an early Valiant 40, made it to Australia from San Francisco, albeit some crew changes during the preparation process.

NOT trying to discourage, just trying to elucidate some of the issues you may have to deal with. Some have done it with less. Many have failed with more.

Better to try and fail than not try at all.

[PortClydeMe]

Originally Posted by AdventureWorld

where does your money go the farthest for 30-50ft Cats?

i've heard the Caribbean,, South Africa,, Panama...

Go the farthest? Now just finishing my second Scotch, yet parts of Patagonia, certain stretches of the upper Amazon, and of course, Somalia, all come to mind.

Hold on a minute, gotta freshen my drink...