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01-05-2016, 02:54
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Location: USA
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Re: Looking for a 32-ft live aboard, motorsailor
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01-05-2016, 06:26
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#17
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Join Date: Jul 2011
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Re: Looking for a 32-ft live aboard, motorsailor
For some people, Hudson Force...
My wife has a similar ailment and is long done with ladders. And, personally, I hate add-ons. It tells me that the naval architect is either a thirty-year old monkey, or hasn't thought things through, or is designing for weekenders, and has never had to live aboard one of his creations.
I worked in boat building for many years and it always amazed me how little time naval architects spend on boats.
Too much time spent book learning and chasing commissions, I guess.
Thank you for your thoughts,
Bry
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01-05-2016, 06:33
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Join Date: Jul 2011
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Re: Looking for a 32-ft live aboard, motorsailor
Thank you Maxingout: I can't say I've ever been on a small cat that felt like home. At 32 feet, the space was too cramped. Not even standing headroom in the salon in the PDQ I was on recently. I've never been on a Prout but would be interested in checking one out. At least it doesn't look like a spaceship. But again, in the 30 to 32 foot range, I don't fancy my chances
All best,
Bry
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01-05-2016, 06:36
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#19
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Re: Looking for a 32-ft live aboard, motorsailor
Thanks for the tip, Uncivilized... I'll check them out.
Bry
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01-05-2016, 06:49
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 6,103
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Re: Looking for a 32-ft live aboard, motorsailor
Look at a Lancer Motorsailer. Good luck
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01-05-2016, 06:49
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Re: Looking for a 32-ft live aboard, motorsailor
Thanks again, Three Sisters.
I checked out the website, Sailboat Listings, I think it is. The first thing I noticed was it is one of the few sites (maybe the only site), that actually has “Motorsailers” listed in their drop down menu. The other thing that surprised me was how many boaters consider their sailboats, motorsailers, just because there is an engine under the floorboards. Of the dozens of boats listed as motorsailers, few actually fit the definition.
Oh well...
Best to you...
Bry
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02-05-2016, 07:11
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 167
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Re: Looking for a 32-ft live aboard, motorsailor
Thank you, Steady Hand. Spent some time searching for a Lancer Motorsailer without much success. Did they make such a boat in my size range? Would appreciate a link if you have one.
Thanks,
Bry
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02-05-2016, 09:06
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Lived aboard & cruised for 45 years,- now on a chair in my walk-in closet.
Boat: Morgan OI 413 1973 - Aythya
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Re: Looking for a 32-ft live aboard, motorsailor
Quote:
Originally Posted by bcripps
For some people, Hudson Force...
My wife has a similar ailment and is long done with ladders. And, personally, I hate add-ons. It tells me that the naval architect is either a thirty-year old monkey, or hasn't thought things through, or is designing for weekenders, and has never had to live aboard one of his creations.
I worked in boat building for many years and it always amazed me how little time naval architects spend on boats.
Too much time spent book learning and chasing commissions, I guess.
Thank you for your thoughts,
Bry
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This sounds like you're working against your own success.
On one hand you don't approve of the naval architect's attention to ergonomics and the designs of available motorsailor's access from the stern, and yet, even with many years of boat building experience, you reject "add ons" as if even an experienced craftsman could not improve what the naval architect produced.
Compromise and adaptation is a characteristic of all successful cruisers and cruising vessels.
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Take care and joy, Aythya crew
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02-05-2016, 09:19
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central California
Boat: Samson C Mist 32
Posts: 680
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Re: Looking for a 32-ft live aboard, motorsailor
Thinking outside the box here... How about some creative Sawzall and fiberglass work to make a walk-in transom on a boat that otherwise fits your needs?
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02-05-2016, 09:26
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#26
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Key West to San Francisco
Boat: 65' cat, sold
Posts: 76
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Re: Looking for a 32-ft live aboard, motorsailor
If you like the Cape Dory 30, you might want to check out a Gulf 32 pilothouse.
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03-05-2016, 06:58
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 167
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Re: Looking for a 32-ft live aboard, motorsailor
Boatman, Hudson Force, Steve Bean... Nope, nope, and nope. But thanks for your suggestions. I'd go to Europe, first, and buy what I want and cruise the Med for a few years. Italy sounds nice.
Bry
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03-05-2016, 08:49
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 167
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Re: Looking for a 32-ft live aboard, motorsailor
Hey Fishead...
That Gulf 30 Pilothouse looks like a gem. My problem with the Capy Dory 300 was it didn't come across as a liveaboard; open shelving and no cockpit storage is a dead giveaway. But the Gulf 30 seems to have a livable interior; the quarter berth is a gift. I like the smallish cockpit with a tiller (wow... what a concept! I pulled the wheel out of my 34 years ago, and went back to a tiller. I never regretted it! I mean how much time to you spend steering a boat when cruising?) And the transom door could work nicely for me, allowing easy access from the inflatable when it's hooked in the davits. I also was pleased to see an anchor locker that looks to be able to handle a hundred feet of chain.
Thanks, Fishead... this could be it!
Bry
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04-05-2016, 12:17
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 167
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Re: Looking for a 32-ft live aboard, motorsailor
Cheechako... sorry it took so long to get back to you but I couldn't find my copy of The Yogi Book.
How about: We made too many wrong mistakes!
Or my favorite: The future ain't what it used to be!
Baseball's never been the same...
Thanks,
Bry
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