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10-05-2019, 12:57
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#61
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cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2017
Boat: Retired from CF
Posts: 13,317
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Re: Living Aboard a Tiny Sailboat
Yah buy **two** boats, so much for the simple life 8-D
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10-05-2019, 13:05
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#62
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: puget sound washington
Boat: 1968 Islander bahama 24 hull 182, 1963 columbia 29 defender. hull # 60
Posts: 12,121
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Re: Living Aboard a Tiny Sailboat
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Originally Posted by john61ct
Yah buy **two** boats, so much for the simple life 8-D
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or at least get one .
Standing head room in the head is a real good idea to.
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10-05-2019, 13:28
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#63
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Moderator
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 6,192
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Re: Living Aboard a Tiny Sailboat
Quote: "Standing head room in the head is a real good idea to. "
Hm... Surely real sailors sit for #1s as well as #2s :-)??
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10-05-2019, 14:13
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#64
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Boating writer, book author
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: On the Go
Boat: Various
Posts: 752
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Re: Living Aboard a Tiny Sailboat
Some years ago I read a book by a man who lived on board and cruised quite extensively on board a 26-footer with his wife, two kids and mother-in-law. Anyone have a copy? I don't remember the name of the author or title of the book but it was published by one of the major marine publishers.
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10-05-2019, 14:53
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#65
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: puget sound washington
Boat: 1968 Islander bahama 24 hull 182, 1963 columbia 29 defender. hull # 60
Posts: 12,121
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Re: Living Aboard a Tiny Sailboat
Quote:
Originally Posted by TrentePieds
Quote: "Standing head room in the head is a real good idea to. "
Hm... Surely real sailors sit for #1s as well as #2s :-)??
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pull up your drawers while squatting because you don't have head room .
Also on my sailboat I actp really have a urinal for #1standing .
( I also sail solo )
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10-05-2019, 17:48
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#66
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: On the boat, somewhere in Australia.
Boat: Swanson 42 & Kelly Peterson 44
Posts: 9,127
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Re: Living Aboard a Tiny Sailboat
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Originally Posted by Andromeda1947
Has anybody here lived aboard a tiny sailboat before? I'm talking between 20-26 feet. If so, how was it and how did you dealt with the cramp space?
I know ideally you would want a larger boat (28 foot or greater), but I'm currently looking at getting one in Australia and it seems like there's not a lot of sailboats here like in the States. The whole idea right now is to use it to live on it here by Melbourne while I work and when I'm not working, taking it out sailing to build up experience. (I've skippered 420s, Lasers, and crewed on a 22 foot boat as well as a 65 foot.) My plan then would be to sell it in around five years and get a much larger one for water sailing">Blue Water sailing and go out into the Pacific and see where it takes me.
As much as I would love to get a larger boat (28 or 30 foot) to live on, there doesn't seem to be many here in Australia which are within my budget.
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My apologies if any of this has been covered so far...
Regarding WHERE to live in "Melbourne", have you checked out Yaringa Harbour on Westernport near Hastings? A fair way from the CBD but I think the train line to Hastings is electric all the way now. (Not totally sure of this, as I left Melbourne 15 years ago.) VERY friendly when I was last there (12 years ago).
Second, not sure if you have mentioned your budget, but some of smaller Swanson yachts had a LOT of space for their size. So, for instance, the 27 can be found in Oz advertised for under AU$20K, so you might even pick one up between $12 - $15K. If the budget is a bit more generous, I've seen some 28's go for under $20K too. And they are very generous inside.
An important point, and one you should really consider if you are going to do this, is to find a boat that is capable of being safely sailed to other ports around Australia, should your circumstances change. It would be a serious problem if you found rule changes forced you out of a club/marina and could not get the boat to an alternative location without trucking it. The Swansons ALL tick this particular box.
Finally, there was a member here on CF living on a Triton 24, brianlara3, not sure if he still posts, but if you can contact him he may be able to offer advice.
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11-05-2019, 18:03
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#67
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Indiana
Boat: Southcoast 22ft sailboat
Posts: 28
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Re: Living Aboard a Tiny Sailboat
I don't think I will live aboard full time But I do plan to spend a lot of time on my boat. Parker Dawson 26. This boat is big to me, I know 26 ft really don't sound like a lot but I am finding places all over it. It has taken me 3 yrs to buy a boat to fit my wants and needs. And this one seems to do just that. I know it is not the fastest boat out there but to have a small boat that I can trailer yet stay out for extended times this should work. And it fit my budget. I do plan on doing the Great American Loop with it. that will take at least 1 year to complete. What makes this boat my choice is a center cockpit. That has an enclosure. So I can open both the front and rear cabins to make 1 long 26-foot room. How well this will work out I really don't know yet as I have just taken possession of her yesterday. I have been told this boat model has made both Atlantic and Pacific crossings, I would like to find out more on those. Mine came with a trailer that I pulled home over 200 miles with a 1/2 Ton Pickup. this was very important for me as I didn't want to pay fees to store the boat in the offseason. I do have some trade-offs like a shower. But having an enclosed cockpit I may find that I can get it done. When I 1st started looking at boats I checked out a 28 ft Morgan It really felt cramped. I guess my bottom line is to look, look and look some more. I was told you will know your boat when you find it, It just fits.
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11-05-2019, 18:24
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#68
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Moderator
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 6,192
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Re: Living Aboard a Tiny Sailboat
@ #65: Quite. I rather favour the lee shrouds for #1s, meself :-) The greatest pain in the butt in small boats is the lack of elbow room to do the paper work.
Nuff o' that...!
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11-05-2019, 18:31
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#69
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 10
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Re: Living Aboard a Tiny Sailboat
Headroom for me in a boat under 30 feet will be difficult for me to find I think. I'm around 192cm (6'2" in imperial) and most sailboats I've seen under 30 feet don't have headroom of more than 6'.
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11-05-2019, 18:34
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#70
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: On the boat, somewhere in Australia.
Boat: Swanson 42 & Kelly Peterson 44
Posts: 9,127
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Re: Living Aboard a Tiny Sailboat
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andromeda1947
Headroom for me in a boat under 30 feet will be difficult for me to find I think. I'm around 192cm (6'2" in imperial) and most sailboats I've seen under 30 feet don't have headroom of more than 6'.
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I'm pretty sure there's that much headroom in the Swanson 28. Ironically, NOT in the Swanson 42, hence the scar tissue on my forehead.
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11-05-2019, 19:16
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#71
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cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2017
Boat: Retired from CF
Posts: 13,317
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Re: Living Aboard a Tiny Sailboat
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andromeda1947
Headroom for me in a boat under 30 feet will be difficult for me to find I think. I'm around 192cm (6'2" in imperial) and most sailboats I've seen under 30 feet don't have headroom of more than 6'.
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yes difficult but likely not impossible
too bad not usually listed on the boat stat sites
more likely in the 32-36' range
poptops?
Worth starting a dedicated thread with the key wish parameters in the title
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11-05-2019, 19:53
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#72
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Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Channel Islands, CA
Boat: 1962 Columbia 29 MK 1 #37
Posts: 14,305
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Re: Living Aboard a Tiny Sailboat
6' in mine. I think the Cape Dory 28 has 6'-2"
The Columbia 26 MK1 has 6' I think and the Columbia 24 had about 5'-9" or so as I recall. The Flicka, at 20', has 5'-11" and the Dana 24 has 6'-1" I have read.
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11-05-2019, 19:53
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#73
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: San Diego, California
Boat: Shock Santana, 30
Posts: 14
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Re: Living Aboard a Tiny Sailboat
For what it's worth to you. I live on our Santana 30, two weeks out of the month. She's a 1972 vintage that we paid $8,000. Us dollars for. She is beautiful with 6"2 inch headroom. She is docked in a great marina in San Diego, Ca.
I am a chef and restaurant owner. I cook 90% of my meals on her. Mostly bbq and toaster oven. I do my billing, accounting, marketing and payroll on her via a hot spot enabled by my android phone.
I personally could live on her year round. She is very comfortable.
The other two weeks of the month I live in an insanely expensive 2,700. Square foot house.
As an aside, I used to live in a 5,000. Square foot house with a four car garage attached.
I am happier on my little old boat then in a big house.
I've never been one for clutter. Never more so then when on my boat.
Everything has it's place and storage, and goes back to it after usage.
I truly think, that for a liveaboard situation, you should look for 30 feet.
You just may have to find an older boat, that has been loved, like ours.
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11-05-2019, 19:58
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#74
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: puget sound washington
Boat: 1968 Islander bahama 24 hull 182, 1963 columbia 29 defender. hull # 60
Posts: 12,121
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Re: Living Aboard a Tiny Sailboat
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andromeda1947
Headroom for me in a boat under 30 feet will be difficult for me to find I think. I'm around 192cm (6'2" in imperial) and most sailboats I've seen under 30 feet don't have headroom of more than 6'.
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6'4" in main salon on my defender . 6' even in my head.
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11-05-2019, 20:51
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#75
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Chesapeake
Boat: Westsail 32
Posts: 16
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Re: Living Aboard a Tiny Sailboat
6’’0-6’3 headroom on my Allamand 31. Just being me onboard I feel like it’s too much space. I think I’d be fine on a 20-25 footer and it would be easier to manage sail,etc.
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