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Old 10-05-2019, 12:57   #61
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Re: Living Aboard a Tiny Sailboat

Yah buy **two** boats, so much for the simple life 8-D
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Yah buy **two** boats, so much for the simple life 8-D
or at least get one .

Standing head room in the head is a real good idea to.
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Old 10-05-2019, 13:28   #63
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Quote: "Standing head room in the head is a real good idea to. "

Hm... Surely real sailors sit for #1s as well as #2s :-)??

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Some years ago I read a book by a man who lived on board and cruised quite extensively on board a 26-footer with his wife, two kids and mother-in-law. Anyone have a copy? I don't remember the name of the author or title of the book but it was published by one of the major marine publishers.
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Quote: "Standing head room in the head is a real good idea to. "

Hm... Surely real sailors sit for #1s as well as #2s :-)??

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pull up your drawers while squatting because you don't have head room .
Also on my sailboat I actp really have a urinal for #1standing .
( I also sail solo )
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Old 10-05-2019, 17:48   #66
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Has anybody here lived aboard a tiny sailboat before? I'm talking between 20-26 feet. If so, how was it and how did you dealt with the cramp space?

I know ideally you would want a larger boat (28 foot or greater), but I'm currently looking at getting one in Australia and it seems like there's not a lot of sailboats here like in the States. The whole idea right now is to use it to live on it here by Melbourne while I work and when I'm not working, taking it out sailing to build up experience. (I've skippered 420s, Lasers, and crewed on a 22 foot boat as well as a 65 foot.) My plan then would be to sell it in around five years and get a much larger one for water sailing">Blue Water sailing and go out into the Pacific and see where it takes me.

As much as I would love to get a larger boat (28 or 30 foot) to live on, there doesn't seem to be many here in Australia which are within my budget.

My apologies if any of this has been covered so far...

Regarding WHERE to live in "Melbourne", have you checked out Yaringa Harbour on Westernport near Hastings? A fair way from the CBD but I think the train line to Hastings is electric all the way now. (Not totally sure of this, as I left Melbourne 15 years ago.) VERY friendly when I was last there (12 years ago).

Second, not sure if you have mentioned your budget, but some of smaller Swanson yachts had a LOT of space for their size. So, for instance, the 27 can be found in Oz advertised for under AU$20K, so you might even pick one up between $12 - $15K. If the budget is a bit more generous, I've seen some 28's go for under $20K too. And they are very generous inside.


An important point, and one you should really consider if you are going to do this, is to find a boat that is capable of being safely sailed to other ports around Australia, should your circumstances change. It would be a serious problem if you found rule changes forced you out of a club/marina and could not get the boat to an alternative location without trucking it. The Swansons ALL tick this particular box.

Finally, there was a member here on CF living on a Triton 24, brianlara3, not sure if he still posts, but if you can contact him he may be able to offer advice.
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I don't think I will live aboard full time But I do plan to spend a lot of time on my boat. Parker Dawson 26. This boat is big to me, I know 26 ft really don't sound like a lot but I am finding places all over it. It has taken me 3 yrs to buy a boat to fit my wants and needs. And this one seems to do just that. I know it is not the fastest boat out there but to have a small boat that I can trailer yet stay out for extended times this should work. And it fit my budget. I do plan on doing the Great American Loop with it. that will take at least 1 year to complete. What makes this boat my choice is a center cockpit. That has an enclosure. So I can open both the front and rear cabins to make 1 long 26-foot room. How well this will work out I really don't know yet as I have just taken possession of her yesterday. I have been told this boat model has made both Atlantic and Pacific crossings, I would like to find out more on those. Mine came with a trailer that I pulled home over 200 miles with a 1/2 Ton Pickup. this was very important for me as I didn't want to pay fees to store the boat in the offseason. I do have some trade-offs like a shower. But having an enclosed cockpit I may find that I can get it done. When I 1st started looking at boats I checked out a 28 ft Morgan It really felt cramped. I guess my bottom line is to look, look and look some more. I was told you will know your boat when you find it, It just fits.
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@ #65: Quite. I rather favour the lee shrouds for #1s, meself :-) The greatest pain in the butt in small boats is the lack of elbow room to do the paper work.


Nuff o' that...!

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Headroom for me in a boat under 30 feet will be difficult for me to find I think. I'm around 192cm (6'2" in imperial) and most sailboats I've seen under 30 feet don't have headroom of more than 6'.
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Headroom for me in a boat under 30 feet will be difficult for me to find I think. I'm around 192cm (6'2" in imperial) and most sailboats I've seen under 30 feet don't have headroom of more than 6'.
I'm pretty sure there's that much headroom in the Swanson 28. Ironically, NOT in the Swanson 42, hence the scar tissue on my forehead.
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Headroom for me in a boat under 30 feet will be difficult for me to find I think. I'm around 192cm (6'2" in imperial) and most sailboats I've seen under 30 feet don't have headroom of more than 6'.
yes difficult but likely not impossible

too bad not usually listed on the boat stat sites

more likely in the 32-36' range

poptops?

Worth starting a dedicated thread with the key wish parameters in the title
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6' in mine. I think the Cape Dory 28 has 6'-2"
The Columbia 26 MK1 has 6' I think and the Columbia 24 had about 5'-9" or so as I recall. The Flicka, at 20', has 5'-11" and the Dana 24 has 6'-1" I have read.
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For what it's worth to you. I live on our Santana 30, two weeks out of the month. She's a 1972 vintage that we paid $8,000. Us dollars for. She is beautiful with 6"2 inch headroom. She is docked in a great marina in San Diego, Ca.
I am a chef and restaurant owner. I cook 90% of my meals on her. Mostly bbq and toaster oven. I do my billing, accounting, marketing and payroll on her via a hot spot enabled by my android phone.
I personally could live on her year round. She is very comfortable.
The other two weeks of the month I live in an insanely expensive 2,700. Square foot house.
As an aside, I used to live in a 5,000. Square foot house with a four car garage attached.
I am happier on my little old boat then in a big house.
I've never been one for clutter. Never more so then when on my boat.
Everything has it's place and storage, and goes back to it after usage.
I truly think, that for a liveaboard situation, you should look for 30 feet.
You just may have to find an older boat, that has been loved, like ours.
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Headroom for me in a boat under 30 feet will be difficult for me to find I think. I'm around 192cm (6'2" in imperial) and most sailboats I've seen under 30 feet don't have headroom of more than 6'.
6'4" in main salon on my defender . 6' even in my head.
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6’’0-6’3 headroom on my Allamand 31. Just being me onboard I feel like it’s too much space. I think I’d be fine on a 20-25 footer and it would be easier to manage sail,etc.
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