I noticed you said you have "the budget" :-)
Great! So for starters, consider that last summer a Fast Passage
39, not long home from a circumnavigation
and all found ready to go again, sold
for five and sixty grand in my marina! Might have been a special circumstance, but such do occur and can be found if you are not in too much of a hurry. The FP39 is a William Garden design. Garden was the doyen of yacht designers on this coast for many years. I had a friend who bought one of the first FP39s built at Philbrook's and fitted out by Jespersen's. Going below was like going into a gallery of fine furniture!
You have said nothing about prior sailing experience. A lot of people here will suggest that such a boat is too big for a novice
to handle, let alone to learn on. I disagree. Half a century ago I was an instructor and did a lot of "crooz'n'learns" in a 65 foot ketch
. Boat handling is no trick. Becoming a competent skipper
is a kettle of fish
of a different colour - but we can come back to that.
If you are a novice
, stick with "frozen snot". No other building medium is as impervious to damage, as easily repaired when damage does occur - as it will - or as maintenance
and worry free.
Eschew all labour saving devices. Lay a sound foundation for boat-handling the old-fashioned way. Once that is under your belt, you can dickey up the boat with sundry toys. If, as would have been the case if you'd been the lucky buyer of the aforementioned FP39, such devices fall into your turban, work around them so you can prosper without them if/when they give you grief - as they will.
Once you are into 40-ish feet any boat you buy is almost certain to have built-in heat for the winter. In days of yore when "functional" over-rode "pretty", the stoves put out by Dickinson's were ubiquitous. Diesel
fuelled. The cat's miow! They would keep you warm, they would keep you dry, they would cook your dinners. But they were bulky, so then, for some years as more and more Newbs ran away to sea, Force 10 bulkhead mounted heaters were in vogue. Also diesel
fueled. And capable of simmering a kettle, but not of cooking
a dinner. These days Webasto and/or Espar forced air heaters are all the rage. Tough to make your morning coffee on one of those!
If you can live with commuting by car, and if you are not required to put on the dog downtown, you might consider the sundry marinas
east of the Lion's Gate. Reed Point might serve. So might Dollarton. Mosquito Creek. You may NOT sail within the area of the Port of Vancouver, but obviously in a forty footer you'll have an engine
, so that's no bother. East of Second Narrows, you may sail again. Heck, if you get yourself accepted at the Royal Van Yot-club, Wigwam Inn at the very top of Indian Arm is a RVYC outstation. Haven't been there for many, many years, but I doubt that there are many people there in the winter. There is a marina at Port Moody and from there to the new Skytrain station, whence you can ride right into the deep, dark innermost entrails of Vancouver's business District, is a ten minute walk.
Choose your frozen snot boat wisely now and your circumnavigation
begins to become a possibility!
As for the fifteen grand a year: Yes, that includes moorage but only because I'm on the VI side of the Straits and because I can do, and do do, all the required maintenance
myself. It includes a sinking fund for replacement of sails
, much to the surprise of many newbs, are CONSUMABLES! I have a new engine
. Had I not, I should increase the sinking fund to make provision for its replacement.
Now, be aware that my displacement
is about 11K lbs. The FP39 is 21K lbs, so, say, double my displacement
. Consider, therefore, that your OWNERSHIP
costs (not your acquisition cost) will be double, i.e. about $30K per annum. Another way of looking at it is that I'm 30Ft overall, the FP is 39, i.e. 30% longer. So therefore 1.3 x 1.3 x 1.3 = 22, i.e. the estimated required budget
to KEEP a FP is more than twice the proven cost to keep TrentePieds. Would that the people responsible for tamping down the present pandemic were capable of comprehending exponential equations :-)!!
If you see mutterings in this forum about "not needing an engine" ignore them. Our particular geological circumstances here in the Salish Sea are such that we often need the iron wind
to go anywhere, and more particularly to navigate the various passes where the tidal current
runs strong four times in 24 hours.
Rosatte is right about the cold and the damp. We live in a temperate rain forest. Ain't the Caribbean
. In a forty footer with a Dickinson stove
, you'll have no real problem. Of old, locally designed boats always had a hanging locker for your foulies. It was heated by the Dickinson
, so you'll always have a dry set to put on. Stinky wet socks hung on the stove
were a common adornment in the galleys of old. Then, half a century ago, every Tom, Dick and Harry suddenly had to be a sailor. And have their wives with them. Wives don't like smelly socks straight from the sea-boot! All these things conspired to make American "production" boats designed for the Caribbean
the norm among Sunday sailors even here.
And I'm with Stu on the usefulness of Waggoners!