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24-03-2019, 21:03
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#16
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 1
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Re: Is liveaboard life still viable?
Hi guys and gals I'm looking at a 30 ft Hunter my dream is to travel up and down the coast. Docking only for food and work. I have small children and a wife that will be with me. I plan on later sailing to other countries.but for now I'm taking it slow and working my way up. Thank you for any help. Also my wife has no experience.my experience is I've worked on them as I've worked in marinas . I'm also a heavy diesel marine mechanic. I've worked on different class of ships but not much sailboats. I'm still resurching and this has been my dream since I was little
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25-03-2019, 05:36
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#17
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 37
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Re: Is liveaboard life still viable?
Well said.
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25-03-2019, 06:38
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#18
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Between Caribbean and Canada
Boat: Murray 33-Chouette & Pape Steelmaid-44-Safara-both steel cutters
Posts: 8,505
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Re: Is liveaboard life still viable?
6nomads,
I take that as 2 adults and 4 children. In a 30’ Hunter? And neither of you have experience?
It’s hard for me to respond to this proposal without sounding sarcastic or dismissive. Frankly the chances of success are almost nil. I can think of innumerable arguments against it. My guess is that if you proceed it will end badly, and beyond your imagination, should you press the matter.
One simple example:
6 people, one head, small holding tank. You will never leave the dock. And WHEN it breaks?
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25-03-2019, 07:27
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#19
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cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2017
Boat: Retired from CF
Posts: 13,317
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Re: Is liveaboard life still viable?
Depends on the people.
I've lived for decades in circumstances more primitive than most Americans do tent-camping, including raising two crops of kids.
Do not assume everyone values comfort and "modern conveniences" as much as you do.
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25-03-2019, 07:45
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#20
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 11,002
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Re: Is liveaboard life still viable?
Contrary to what some people have suggested, in common usage "liveaboard" typically implies someone who lives on their boat and stays in the same marina with the possible exception of day sails and short trips. (Yes, technically anyone living on a boat is a liveaboard but words often have multiple meanings and this is the commonly used meaning in cruising circles and by marinas.)
Particularly in the southeast USA, liveaboards have gotten a bad reputation as some bad apples have picked up derelict boats on the cheap, parked them in a slip and generally make a nuisance of themselves....so some marinas have instituted no liveaboard rules.
Generally though if you are a cruiser passing thru, they don't have an issue...passing thru can include stopping for a month...sometimes 3...by the time you hit 3 months, if you keep the boat shipshape and don't make a nuisance of yourself, they will often won't have an issue if you stay permanently.
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25-03-2019, 08:13
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#21
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Between Caribbean and Canada
Boat: Murray 33-Chouette & Pape Steelmaid-44-Safara-both steel cutters
Posts: 8,505
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Re: Is liveaboard life still viable?
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Originally Posted by john61ct
Depends on the people.
I've lived for decades in circumstances more primitive than most Americans do tent-camping, including raising two crops of kids.
Do not assume everyone values comfort and "modern conveniences" as much as you do.
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Sounds like a book in there somewhere.
Maybe you should respond to 6nomads post above. Sounds like he could use your advice.
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25-03-2019, 09:38
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#22
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Earth
Boat: Boat
Posts: 281
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Re: Is liveaboard life still viable?
Quote:
Originally Posted by sailorboy1
The past 2.5 years I’ve been the length of the eastern USA 3 times. I haven’t really seen this “anti liveaboard” thing that always gets screamed about on cf. i haven’t seen it, because it doesn’t apply to me, but I bet there is an “anti boat trash” at most marinas and this gets called anti liveaboard by many.
Im a cruiser and am anti boat trash also. Only other boat trash likes boat trash.
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Out of curiousity, how long do you stay put before moving alone?
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25-03-2019, 10:05
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#23
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: 29° 49.16’ N 82° 25.82’ W
Boat: Pearson 422
Posts: 16,306
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Re: Is liveaboard life still viable?
Quote:
Originally Posted by hpeer
6nomads,
I take that as 2 adults and 4 children. In a 30’ Hunter? And neither of you have experience?
It’s hard for me to respond to this proposal without sounding sarcastic or dismissive. Frankly the chances of success are almost nil. I can think of innumerable arguments against it. My guess is that if you proceed it will end badly, and beyond your imagination, should you press the matter.
One simple example:
6 people, one head, small holding tank. You will never leave the dock. And WHEN it breaks?
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Maybe I missed it but where do you see four children? I only see a mention of children in the plural without reference to whether that meant two or ten.
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25-03-2019, 11:07
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#24
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: San Diego
Boat: Jeanneau 349, FP 47, Sense 50, J 42ds
Posts: 752
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Re: Is liveaboard life still viable?
On the left coast most all marinas have a limited number of live aboard slips. They charge a premium to cover the extra cost of full time residence. In the marinas I've been to they are in very good shape. In part, perhaps, because there is such a high demand for those slips that being kicked out for non compliance is something they seem to want to avoid. I'm sure it depends on the marina.
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25-03-2019, 11:12
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#25
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S/V rubber ducky
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: heading "south"
Boat: Hunter 410
Posts: 20,362
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Re: Is liveaboard life still viable?
Quote:
Originally Posted by 6nomads
Hi guys and gals I'm looking at a 30 ft Hunter my dream is to travel up and down the coast. Docking only for food and work. I have small children and a wife that will be with me. I plan on later sailing to other countries.but for now I'm taking it slow and working my way up. Thank you for any help. Also my wife has no experience.my experience is I've worked on them as I've worked in marinas . I'm also a heavy diesel marine mechanic. I've worked on different class of ships but not much sailboats. I'm still resurching and this has been my dream since I was little
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sounds like a recipe for misery and failure
no experience, wife, 2 small kids, 30' boat that I assume is older
braver than me, much much much braver
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25-03-2019, 11:36
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#26
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S/V rubber ducky
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: heading "south"
Boat: Hunter 410
Posts: 20,362
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Re: Is liveaboard life still viable?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cloroxbottle
Out of curiousity, how long do you stay put before moving alone?
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on anchor?
1 to 14 days normally
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25-03-2019, 12:15
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#27
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Jacksonville/ out cruising
Boat: Island Packet 38
Posts: 31,351
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Re: Is liveaboard life still viable?
Quote:
Originally Posted by sailorboy1
The past 2.5 years I’ve been the length of the eastern USA 3 times. I haven’t really seen this “anti liveaboard” thing that always gets screamed about on cf. i haven’t seen it, because it doesn’t apply to me, but I bet there is an “anti boat trash” at most marinas and this gets called anti liveaboard by many.
Im a cruiser and am anti boat trash also. Only other boat trash likes boat trash.
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Your going to cruise the Gulf coast this year right?
When you get to Clearwater, stay in one of the City Marina’s, the one under the bridge is nicer.
Ask them after you get there and they see your well kept and your boat is too, and see if they allow “Liveaboards”.
What the dockmasters face as you do.
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25-03-2019, 12:46
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#28
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S/V rubber ducky
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: heading "south"
Boat: Hunter 410
Posts: 20,362
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Re: Is liveaboard life still viable?
Quote:
Originally Posted by a64pilot
Your going to cruise the Gulf coast this year right?
When you get to Clearwater, stay in one of the City Marina’s, the one under the bridge is nicer.
Ask them after you get there and they see your well kept and your boat is too, and see if they allow “Liveaboards”.
What the dockmasters face as you do.
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Well I still wouldn't be a liveaboard even if I stayed on the boat 24/7 for a month. In Florida the term "liveaboard" has a meaning and I'm not it.
But what would I expect the dockmaster's reaction to be, as I doubt I would ask and open up a can of worms.
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25-03-2019, 13:48
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#29
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 2,007
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Re: Is liveaboard life still viable?
Quote:
Originally Posted by sailorboy1
. Only other boat trash likes boat trash.
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Double upvote on that!
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30-03-2019, 18:14
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#30
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Palm Beach and the Conch Republic
Boat: Gibson 50', Columbia 8.3, Harbor 20, Hunter 14, Trac 16, Several Lasers
Posts: 308
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Re: Is liveaboard life still viable?
Quote:
Originally Posted by sailorboy1
Only other boat trash likes boat trash.
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This is a classic quote you'll surely see again.
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