Originally Posted by CaptForce
.....and this is as it should be,- lvieaboards using the public waterways without risk and detriment to others.
Huge difference between live aboards, and being a bum on a floating hull
I live aboard and am not wealthy, my boat is not immaculate by any means.
However I work hard to make sure my choices do not impact others or cause harm as much as I can.
Down on your luck, out of work does not make a bum. Homelessness neither.
In fact I know some bums hold public office...
It's an attitude, that of taking advantage of others as much as possible, and causing harm with no concern so long as it means not contributing.
A key point in the 'but they would be I'm the same situation on land' argument is being missed.
An uncared for van or a tent or a shack does not:
-drift around violently and destroy other's homes, potentially causing injuries to others.
-Cost thousands of dollars in disposal fees when abandoned.
The derelict boats here are a real hazard. In fact a lot of the anchoring regulations
are the results of the behavior of a few people off and on as they acquire and lose free boats.
From tying up to navigation
buoys, creating floating blockades anchored in such a way as to block the entrance or exit of any boat from a marina and drifting/crashing into other boats docked and at anchor
on a regular basis they are a real hassle, and ruinning it for those who would live aboard with some care towards their neighbors.
So far I have two friends who've needed extensive repairs
from these derelict boats, one went right through the hull deck
joint when it drifted, and two other times have had their anchors fouled and pulled up by the same boats dropping anchor right on top of them.
Other popular activities have included
-camping out on the public dock
resulting in increased enforcement there ruining it for the rest of us.
-Abusing the forms and anchoring
permits resulting in the closing of two loopholes and any access to the forms outside of buisness hours.
-Overboard discharge of everything from a morning dump over the transom right up to a 90lb 6' wide engine hatch
that floated around for weeks.
I have lost
two expensive anchors I loaned out to help with one part of the issue, first a 35lb cqr
on 50' of good chain and 200' of nylon(replacing a15lb danforth on a few feet of 1/4 chain). This was lost
when the rode
was cut and the boat towed for being a hazard to navigation
yet again anchored in a navigational channel.
The second, a 33lb rocna
on the same rode
set up chafed through(different boat)
I was sympathetic towards the issue of not having money, and the stress of having a home that might be gone upon return. Since I got a slip for a year to refit
I wanted to help out, and couldn't see hanging onto something I wasn't using at the time that could make all the difference to another. Especially when it could mean losing their home.
I got asked for another anchor, and some oars but have said no since I've run out of anchors, and am too broke to buy another. The individual in this case then took the boat and abandoned it on the public dock
after filling the cabin
with their excrement, and blowing the engine
by cranking it and pouring coolant
down the intake to make sure no one else could use the boat after them.
Disposal will be right around 3500$.
My sympathy has started to wane, though I still try to help when I can.
To argue that it's a matter of freedom misses the part where one's right to do as they please impacts the same rights of others.