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10-06-2017, 10:50
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#61
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Mexican Riveria
Boat: Lagoon 450
Posts: 73
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Re: Help us settle the Air Conditioner debate
We bought a new Lagoon 450.
We have the genset. We do not have AC. We are in the eastern Carib.
Like many have said, the only time I have ever wanted to turn on the AC is when at a marina - *and* I cannot face into the wind (many marinas have the option to still face the breeze).
As an option from Lagoon it was at ~$25-30k. We have stayed in a marina without facing the wind about 7 total days. So that AC would have cost about $4,000 per night.
Cheaper to go to a 5-star resort.
If I was going to have it tied up in a marina and not face the wind, get the AC.
But why buy a nice cat and then tie it down?
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10-06-2017, 10:58
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#62
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Mexican Riveria
Boat: Lagoon 450
Posts: 73
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Re: Help us settle the Air Conditioner debate
also if you are buying a boat for resale value... let's talk about some nice bridges I have available....
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10-06-2017, 11:26
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#63
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Aboard
Boat: Hatteras CPMY 63’
Posts: 900
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Re: Help us settle the Air Conditioner debate
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Originally Posted by exitstrategy
also if you are buying a boat for resale value... let's talk about some nice bridges I have available....
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It is not a question of resale value , but one of resale speed. A fully equipped boat at a fair price will probably sell faster than a sparsely equipped one. How many months do you want to keep paying for your boat once you make the decision to sell?
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10-06-2017, 11:37
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#64
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Mexican Riveria
Boat: Lagoon 450
Posts: 73
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Re: Help us settle the Air Conditioner debate
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Originally Posted by Woodland Hills
It is not a question of resale value , but one of resale speed. A fully equipped boat at a fair price will probably sell faster than a sparsely equipped one. How many months do you want to keep paying for your boat once you make the decision to sell?
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Boats are notorious for their lack of selling speed. Sure an AC boat *might* sell faster than a non AC boat. But $30k will buy you between 15 and 30 months of holding time. It simply is not an easy question. If you are going to use the AC a lot, then buy the AC.
Not being argumentative, but they asked for strong opinions. Buying the AC for someone is not an opinion I would get behind.
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10-06-2017, 13:44
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#65
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Australia
Boat: Catalina 470
Posts: 4,578
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Re: Help us settle the Air Conditioner debate
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Originally Posted by StuM
Spend enough time in the tropics and you will find that 77 (25°C) is cold at night
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Lol....yep that's true. Its crazy what I now think is cold.
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10-06-2017, 13:54
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#66
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 439
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Re: Help us settle the Air Conditioner debate
Funny - 5 pages and 65 posts.....nothing settled for the poor OP!
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10-06-2017, 14:10
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#67
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Lived aboard & cruised for 45 years,- now on a chair in my walk-in closet.
Boat: Morgan OI 413 1973 - Aythya
Posts: 8,455
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Re: Help us settle the Air Conditioner debate
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flyingriki
Funny - 5 pages and 65 posts.....nothing settled for the poor OP!
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I think the OP has been given much valuable information. This includes the reasons why to choose AC and why not to have AC. The predominant answer has been to have AC available at the dock, but it's not necessary at anchor.
The final answer is that it's the cruiser's choice!
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Take care and joy, Aythya crew
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10-06-2017, 14:42
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#68
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: W Carib
Boat: Wildcat 35, Hobie 33
Posts: 13,480
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Re: Help us settle the Air Conditioner debate
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Originally Posted by Flyingriki
Funny - 5 pages and 65 posts.....nothing settled for the poor OP!
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You didnt expect concensus from this crowd did you?
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10-06-2017, 15:19
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#69
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2017
Boat: Future Fountaine Pajot owner
Posts: 11
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Re: Help us settle the Air Conditioner debate
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Originally Posted by Holly3785n
Thank you for the perspectives! Wow, didn't consider the bugs on a humid, hot day. Yes, first world problems but I can see creature comforts are going to matter. I'm fine downsizing to two pairs of shoes and giving up ice cream but for as hard as I've worked over the last 30 years, I don't want to choose between getting eaten alive by bugs or dying from a hot flash because my husband wanted to go old school in retirement and ditch the A/C.
Based on everything I've heard from you guys, it's going in the manufacturer's invoice. The Skipper just doesn't know it yet ;-)
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OPs conclusion is quoted above...Skipper still in denial over this decision but I'm sure that will pass
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11-06-2017, 03:33
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#70
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Maryland, USA
Boat: 58' Sedan Bridge
Posts: 5,420
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Re: Help us settle the Air Conditioner debate
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Originally Posted by Holly3785n
OPs conclusion is quoted above...Skipper still in denial over this decision but I'm sure that will pass
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Always good to learn what decision an OP makes from threads like this... where there are many factors for consideration and "it depends" is about as close to consensus as the thread can get.
But in this case... ROFL!
Great feedback!!!
-Chris
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Chesapeake Bay, USA.
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12-06-2017, 05:46
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#71
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CLOD
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: being planted in Jacksonville Fl
Boat: none
Posts: 20,364
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Re: Help us settle the Air Conditioner debate
Since there hasn't been a lot of sun and not much is forecast for 8 days I have the generator on to charge the batteries. That's a small load on the generator so I turned on the air conditioning.
It's nice in the boat!
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Don't ask a bunch of unknown forum people if it is OK to do something on YOUR boat. It is your boat, do what you want!
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12-06-2017, 06:33
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#72
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: France
Posts: 9
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Re: Help us settle the Air Conditioner debate
Very informative thread. I myself can't imagine having to endure the heat if it isn't windy.
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12-06-2017, 13:03
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#73
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Paradise
Boat: Various
Posts: 2,427
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Re: Help us settle the Air Conditioner debate
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Originally Posted by StuM
Spend enough time in the tropics and you will find that 77 (25°C) is cold at night
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We spend a lot of time in tropical climates and we keep the boat cooled to 72 degrees F. We're fine in warm and humid weather when outside the cabins or our home but inside and for sleep at night, we want it cool (and dry).
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12-06-2017, 14:45
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#74
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Winnsboro, Texas
Boat: Catalina 30 MKII
Posts: 264
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Re: Help us settle the Air Conditioner debate
I suppose that with a price tag for the AC option of $25-30K - the decision may be easier (or harder?)
Guess it has to do with the size/complexity of the boat, how many BTUs are needed, and how much of the work you can do yourself.
From what I can see with just a quick browse, I could get 10-16,000 BTUs for under $2,000, pump for another $200, hoses, but and pieces, etc for less than $500. 'Course, I'm talking about a smaller boat, but maybe shopping around will save some $$$ as opposed to forking over $25-$30K.
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12-06-2017, 16:25
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#75
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: on the move
Boat: Lagoon 450S
Posts: 160
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Re: Help us settle the Air Conditioner debate
Quote:
Originally Posted by daletournier
I've cruised the tropics for 7 years, never needed or desired aircon accept for those times in a marina where you cant hang to a breeze.
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Yes but now that your sporty around in that shiny new fancy boat! I bet you are hanging to the air con along with a cold martini in your hand! In fact do you ever get the sails up?
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