Help Marina Wants Out Of Water Survey

[Celestialsailor]

Originally Posted by fstbttms

Look, nothing's written stone, but in no iteration of development concepts that have been submitted, has any change been made to the marina itself. And the developer has said as much. He wants to keep the marina. The marina earns money from what would otherwise be empty water and it attracts home buyers and businesses to the development.

BTW- my business is based at Alameda Marina, I rent inside dry storage space there for my inflatable boat, dive gear, tools, anode inventory etc., so I stand to lose a lot if redevelopment happens. It behooves me to keep my ear to the ground and know what is going on.

I know...we've bumped into one another on a few occasions. My Hallberg was the next dock ramp over when I was berthed there.

[fstbttms]

Originally Posted by Celestialsailor

I know...we've bumped into one another on a few occasions. My Hallberg was the next dock ramp over when I was berthed there.

Yes, I'm aware.

[JPA Cate]

fstbttms:

Was that de-zincification of the prop due to not having a zinc on the shaft, or is the wiring suspect in that marina?

Like most issues, there is a sweet spot. The other guys in the marina deserve to be protected against derelicts, as does the marina. This is not unreasonable. What does seem to me to be unreasonable is people who suggest that their dream is above critical thought. Those people with the dreams and derelict or nearly derelict boats can be a problem. Though I have to admit it was a tradesman's mistake that sunk a powerboat near to us in a marina, one time, so it is not ONLY derelicts that are a problem.

Ann

[fstbttms]

Originally Posted by Ann T. Cate

fstbttms:

Was that de-zincification of the prop due to not having a zinc on the shaft, or is the wiring suspect in that marina?

Considering that the boat had been neglected for years, I suspect the former. The Alameda Marina has no dock wiring issues that I am aware of.

[boatpoker]

Originally Posted by Ann T. Cate

fstbttms:

Was that de-zincification of the prop due to not having a zinc on the shaft, or is the wiring suspect in that marina?

Like most issues, there is a sweet spot. The other guys in the marina deserve to be protected against derelicts, as does the marina. This is not unreasonable. What does seem to me to be unreasonable is people who suggest that their dream is above critical thought. Those people with the dreams and derelict or nearly derelict boats can be a problem. Though I have to admit it was a tradesman's mistake that sunk a powerboat near to us in a marina, one time, so it is not ONLY derelicts that are a problem.

Ann

Unlikely that galvanic action caused this, much more likely stray current corrosion from his own boat.

[Sailmonkey]

Originally Posted by boatpoker

I put a lot of time and money into my boat and I appreciate a marina that will not put a fire hazard in the slip next to me.

That's the truth......that was the final straw for us, moving out of the right price but quirky marina that put a family of three living aboard a derelict 26' boat with a huge dog on our finger.


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[Rigdaddy]

I thought about moving the boat to a marina closer to my home town. One marina required the usual insurance etc but also required a less than one year old survey showing the condition of the zincs.

[fstbttms]

Originally Posted by Rigdaddy

One marina... required a less than one year old survey showing the condition of the zincs.

That's about as ridiculous a requirement as I've ever heard of.

[rwidman]

Originally Posted by arch007

............. Does anyone know exactly what the marina wants to see on the out of water survey ?.........

I hate to have to post what should be obvious, but why don't you ask the marina what it wants to see on the survey?

Nobody here knows what they want, we can only guess.

[rwidman]

Originally Posted by boatpoker

...............They got stung for over $100k to clean up a sunken boat after a fire when the owners insurer denied coverage a few years ago.

Isn't the liability really with the owner? Couldn't the marina go after the owner if his insurance wouldn't pay up?

[nauticalnomad]

Originally Posted by fstbttms

As a paid favor for a former harbormaster of the aforementioned Alameda Marina, I cleaned a real POS bought by an old guy who couldn't afford the slip it was in. The harbormaster (with reluctance) wanted him out, but we had to scrape the 10 years of growth off the bottom first. The owner was there when I did the job and as I passed under the running gear to show him a handful of what was growing on the hull, I grabbed the prop to pull myself past. Here's the result:

Soooo.... You broke the poor blokes propellor...

[denverd0n]

Originally Posted by nauticalnomad

Soooo.... You broke the poor blokes propellor...

No, I'd say that propeller was already well and truly broken! Fstbttms just saved him the trouble of finding it out for himself, and perhaps doing some damage, the first time he tried to put it into gear.

[Sailmonkey]

Originally Posted by fstbttms

That's about as ridiculous a requirement as I've ever heard of.

+1......


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[rwidman]

Originally Posted by ramblinrod

Sorry, an inspection in slings by Marina staff is worth squat wrt verifying safety standards compliance..........

If the marina requiring an inspection is satisfied with an inspection by a member of their staff, that is all that would be needed.

It might not satisfy you but if it satisfies them, that's the end of it.

[buzzstar]

Originally Posted by leftbrainstuff

Touche.

Part of our selection criteria when choosing a marina is the absence of junk boats.

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What do you have against this ancient, honored and reliable style of rigging?