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13-06-2016, 22:30
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#76
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2010
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Re: Do You Report Your Movements to Social Security
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Originally Posted by CharlesV
This thread brings up a question. Money...wives....husbands....duty...choices....loo k, all in all is a sailor better off being single or married?
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In Finland we have a thing called "widow pension" so in case you get perilled while sailing the wifey and kids get your earned pension (anyway  )
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14-06-2016, 00:21
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#77
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Australia
Boat: Island Packet 40
Posts: 6,205
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Re: Do You Report Your Movements to Social Security
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Originally Posted by Sea Dreaming
If you havent seen the news on Trump, maybe you should. Im actually relucant to discuss his ideas as my comments are now public record. I dont know when they might come back to bite me. Paranoid, no, increasinly distrustful of our "free" society, yes!
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Trumps not the problem, the real problem is those people who "want to look after you" and from the viewpoint of the great south land Donald, whilst he might have other problems, does not appear to be one of them.
As a general principal and with a fairly extensive life behind me I find that
unless a bureaucrat (both public and private sector) actually demands a piece of information from you one is better to leave them in ignorance.
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14-06-2016, 01:18
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#78
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Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Texas and Taiwan
Posts: 216
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Re: Do You Report Your Movements to Social Security
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Originally Posted by El Pinguino
I have a very small private UK pension... every three or four years I get a letter.... just making sure I am still alive...
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Must be a UK thing. I've been retired and receiving U.S. pension for past 6 years and they haven't asked me if I dead or not. And ,if I do die, I'm not telling them a thing.
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14-06-2016, 05:19
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#79
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Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Algarrobo, playground of the rich and famous.
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Re: Do You Report Your Movements to Social Security
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Originally Posted by Taichungman
Must be a UK thing. I've been retired and receiving U.S. pension for past 6 years and they haven't asked me if I dead or not. And ,if I do die, I'm not telling them a thing.
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Maybe its a 'probability' thing and they only start sending them out when they think you should be dead..... I've been getting them for some time now
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14-06-2016, 20:08
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#80
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Malaysia
Posts: 65
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Re: Do You Report Your Movements to Social Security
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Originally Posted by RaymondR
Trumps not the problem, the real problem is those people who "want to look after you" and from the viewpoint of the great south land Donald, whilst he might have other problems, does not appear to be one of them.
As a general principal and with a fairly extensive life behind me I find that
unless a bureaucrat (both public and private sector) actually demands a piece of information from you one is better to leave them in ignorance.
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Right. 1984. Oh yeah, i'll look after you, alright. The entirety of your post brings up a point.
I didnt have trouble with SSA until I saw two questions on the application, 1) are you married 2) have you ever worked abroad? I paused because the questions seemed personal and outside my work record. I asked in another forum, how to answer? Example, if a person marries a foreigner while abroad, should he just leave her out of this? The raining consensus was to always tell the truth.
Nazis in interrogations said, there is nothing to worry about if you tell the truth. Then they promptly shot the victim after getting the truth. I wish I never knew that because it seems to apply to so many things today. Saying something, giving info, its not for help, its not an honest question, its to weigh in the other persons mind whether or not they get to plug you with a .45.
Tell me im wrong. Tell me im paranoid so I can sleep better tonight.
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14-06-2016, 20:10
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#81
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Tasmania, Australia
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Re: Do You Report Your Movements to Social Security
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Originally Posted by CharlesV
Right. 1984. Oh yeah, i'll look after you, alright. The entirety of your post brings up a point.
I didnt have trouble with SSA until I saw two questions on the application, 1) are you married 2) have you ever worked abroad? I paused because the questions seemed personal and outside my work record. I asked in another forum, how to answer? Example, if a person marries a foreigner while abroad, should he just leave her out of this? The raining consensus was to always tell the truth.
Nazis in interrogations said, there is nothing to worry about if you tell the truth. Then they promptly shot the victim after getting the truth. I wish I never knew that because it seems to apply to so many things today. Saying something, giving info, its not for help, its not an honest question, its to weigh in the other persons mind whether or not they get to plug you with a .45.
Tell me im wrong. Tell me im paranoid so I can sleep better tonight.
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Yes Charles, your being paranoid.. take a pill and get some sleep.
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14-06-2016, 20:42
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#82
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Australia
Boat: Island Packet 40
Posts: 6,205
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Re: Do You Report Your Movements to Social Security
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Originally Posted by CharlesV
Right. 1984. Oh yeah, i'll look after you, alright. The entirety of your post brings up a point.
I didnt have trouble with SSA until I saw two questions on the application, 1) are you married 2) have you ever worked abroad? I paused because the questions seemed personal and outside my work record. I asked in another forum, how to answer? Example, if a person marries a foreigner while abroad, should he just leave her out of this? The raining consensus was to always tell the truth.
Nazis in interrogations said, there is nothing to worry about if you tell the truth. Then they promptly shot the victim after getting the truth. I wish I never knew that because it seems to apply to so many things today. Saying something, giving info, its not for help, its not an honest question, its to weigh in the other persons mind whether or not they get to plug you with a .45.
Tell me im wrong. Tell me im paranoid so I can sleep better tonight.
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Paranoia in relation to bureaucrats is not a mental problem it is a defensive mechanism.
There are truths and truths and much of the outcome depends upon where you put the emphasis. Bill Clinton was the expert at this. When accused of smoking pot he said yes he had but he did not inhale. This could be taken that whilst he was ready to conform with his peers he was not actually a dope addict. When it was a sex scandal he said I did not have sexual relations with that woman. You can put a number of interpretations to this statement - it was not a relationship, it was a one off for example - politicians do this all the time.
Avoid them and if you cannot, obfuscate and prevaricate but never actually lie to them as in some legal jurisdictions you might find this constitutes perjury. In the case of the did you marry a foreign woman question the answer might be "yes, but she is not rich enough to support me".
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15-06-2016, 05:04
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#83
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 2,150
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Re: Do You Report Your Movements to Social Security
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Originally Posted by Rustic Charm
Yes Charles, your being paranoid.. take a pill and get some sleep. 
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Actually Charlie is a realist. Things really are going to hell in a handbasket. Governments no longer look at their citizens as their master but as their assets.
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15-06-2016, 05:55
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#84
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Join Date: Nov 2008
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Re: Do You Report Your Movements to Social Security
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Originally Posted by reed1v
Actually Charlie is a realist. Things really are ............
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There always seems to be a fairly wide range in perceptions of reality.
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15-06-2016, 06:44
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#85
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Re: Do You Report Your Movements to Social Security
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Originally Posted by Hudson Force
There always seems to be a fairly wide range in perceptions of reality.
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Speaking about the upcoming Presidential elections....
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15-06-2016, 08:46
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#86
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Behind the garlic curtain - east central Saskatchewan
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Re: Do You Report Your Movements to Social Security
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Originally Posted by CharlesV
Tell me im wrong. Tell me im paranoid so I can sleep better tonight.
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You're not paranoid. Tell the bastards only what they absolutely need to know plus whatever they're likely to be able to figure out on their own with minimal effort.
R.J.(Bob) Evans
www.bobandmarilyn.ca
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