Longtime lurker, first time poster here. I'm a young adult in my 20's looking to purchase
a sailboat to use primarily as a liveaboard
to save money
on rent, but also to explore the PNW and BC Coast by sea. An opportunity has come up for me to purchase
a 1980 Fraser 30, built by the De Kleer brothers, for $3000.
Now, apart from sailing and racing
420's in high school
, I know quite little about keel
boats. I went and looked at the boat
a few days ago and brought a friend who is more knowledgeable of sailboats than me, and the boat
looks to be in generally good condition. My friend agreed, and pointed me towards a few areas of concern. It's clear that she hasn't been used all too much lately, but would clean up nicely, and, given a few minor galley
refurbishments be quite a nice boat. I've attached some photos in the link below – I'd rather some more experienced sailors than me tell me what they can decipher. I know it's difficult from photos, sorry!
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My goals would be to:
, and save money
on rent. I get that it'll be a bit more uncomfortable than renting
a house or room and require more maintence, etc. But, it would halve my rent from 700/month to 300 or whatever moorage fees
are (I was quoted $180). I have access to gyms for shower
, the docks are centrally located close to amenities, so it would take a minor change of lifestyle but not immense.
2. Sail the BC Coast and maybe beyond. Are the Fraser 30's a suitable boat to encounter pretty rough seas? I'd like to start by exploring more of the central Coast, maybe up into Alaska
. All going well, some bigger crossings or trips down to central america
to surf would be fun! The previous owner told me that they had sailed it to Hawaii
, but I'm not sure how much I trust that...
3. Refurbish the interior
to suit my needs. This is more of a desire than need, but I'd like to have a creative project
of sorts, and I'm working towards going to architecture school
so could use this project
as a portfolio piece.
Some concerns I have for the boat are / were:
1. Embedded chainplates. I've heard Fraser's have these, and, although my research
didn't show it as being an issue on other Fraser vessels I can't help but wonder if that will become a problem...
on board. All my boat friends tell me to be wary of the propane
cooktop / heater
, yet I see them all over.
. The owner said it would probably need a new main, which is a large cost to be incurred. How large, I don't know. This makes me question the integrity of the rest of the rigging
, but I didn't have a keen enough eye to tell. I did inspect them for what I knew and they seemed solid.
around the windows / the cracks in the gelcoat
on the hull
. You can see it in the photos towards the bow of the boat the damage to the hull
5. Oh, and the engine
is a 9.9 Honda
, that nestles in behind the helm
in that compartment. I'm not sure about the benefits of an outboard
over an embedded engine
6. There's also a steering
hydraulic leak, which.. I would have no idea how to fix, or how much it might cost, but I'm certainly keen to learn! I don't know how crippling that would be of a problem.
7. Standing Height + light for liveabord. They make the Frasers in pilot house versions which look amazing, but I haven't found one of those for sale
in my price
range. I can just barely stand tall in the middle of the galley
, but towards the sides it dwindles down. I can't see this being an issue except when cooking
, because the stovetop is slightly off centre. Would this wear on me eventually?
You're probably reading this thinking 'jeez, this kid knows nothing about boats, this is a terrible idea'. And you may be right. I guess what I'm looking for is a second opinion on whether or not it's a good deal, a good boat that is worthwhile to put effort into and sailing around the waters of the PNW, and, even if I buy it, decide liveaboards aren't for me, and put a bit of money and time into it think that it's re-sale value would hold.
Thank you all for your insights.