Cruising Budget, Part II

[atoll]

Originally Posted by NativeUSAindian

1. Slip (Including utilities and "liveaboard" fees)

Some charg you by the foot long of your boat?
Some charg you by the slip. per munth.?

2. Insurance
Like all things that depends on the plan you get.?

3. Transportation (Land)
That depends on car rentals,Taxi,Bus, actces to the Marina.?

4. Food (including House keeping staples)
Food: 1. stored for at dock. 2. stored for at sea. 3. eat at a restrunt.

House keeping:If it is your own boat then you do all the cleaning.
you can
ask the Marina where is the closes place to restock your boat?

5. Laundry
Laundry: Laundry mat,wash at sea In California they do not want you droping water or tolet wast over board so the boat tank must be made so it can be pumped out like a RV. If you have your own waser/Dryer on board.and so on.

6. Intertainment
If you have a TV on board,board games,Nabor party and you own party,

7.maintenance fund
Very inporten: keep it full and add up the coast of any thing on your boat that you mite need to replace and keep a list of new coast for these repairs and dry docking if needed.

8. Fuel
At depends on you if you are on Desail,Electric,Both.

and the point is?

[NativeUSAindian]

Originally Posted by atoll

and the point is?

A guy was asking but a woman had told him what she new. But for me I am looking to get a Lagoon 62' or 66' footer with Electric drive and to make it a Hydrogen Electric Boat self contained boat with 5 to 6 cabins.

Then move in to the Ocean and build me a City but I can not ask any one to help me on here. So we are just learning buget for Living aboard a boat that this guy was asking.
So thank you very much for asking what is the point?

[Khagan1227]

Originally Posted by sailorchic34

For the SF Bay area and an older er mature 34' boat. I've lived aboard the last 6 years and also sail / cruise.

Slip $315 + $200 liveaboard+($10-$30 Elec) Liveaboard fees range from $0 to $300. ($0 being hard to find, but it's out there) Slip costs range from $5.50/ft to $12.00 a foot (or more) depending on the marina. Currently I pay $187 a month with no liveaboard or utility fees. The average in the SF bay area is $8.75/foot and $200 liveaboard + elect


Insurance Oh $260 a year for $300k liability and hull coverage, But thats for a 39 year old sailboat in good condition.

Transportation (Land) $200 for car and insurance, +$50 to $150 a month for gas.

Food (including House keeping staples) $200-$240 ish for 1+cat ( I have an expensive cat)

Laundry $10

Entertainment $50 ish, I'm a cheep date, ha.

maintenance fund month to month oh $50, a haul out for me is $1000 if I do it or $1600-$2000 if someone else does is. Generally I'll do it.

Fuel For a sailboat that burns 0.4 gph, oh $20 ish a month or so, $18 propane lasts 8+ months (non-winter) but may only last a week or two if you have propane heat in the winter.

Really it all depends on what boat you have and where you dock it. A trip to the delta and back costs me maybe $30 for fuel. For a powerboat it could be $800 or so for the same trip. It all depends on what you want.

That doesn't sound too bad, I would have thought the Bay area would have been MUCH more expensive.

Does your marina let you park there for free?

[atoll]

Originally Posted by NativeUSAindian

A guy was asking but a woman had told him what she new. But for me I am looking to get a Lagoon 62' or 66' footer with Electric drive and to make it a Hydrogen Electric Boat self contained boat with 5 to 6 cabins.

Then move in to the Ocean and build me a City but I can not ask any one to help me on here. So we are just learning buget for Living aboard a boat that this guy was asking.
So thank you very much for asking what is the point?

no disrespect but seems like you have all the best intentions but zero knowledge.

apreciate your input on whole foods,natural resources etc

their is a vast amount of knowledge available on sailing with limited resources,on big boats,may be you are not asking the right questions from the right people.

suggest you start on the $500/month thread and up scale accordingly that way with knowledge you may find your 500,000 followers to pay for your aspirations......best atoll

[NativeUSAindian]

Originally Posted by atoll

no disrespect but seems like you have all the best intentions but zero knowledge.

apreciate your input on whole foods,natural resources etc

their is a vast amount of knowledge available on sailing with limited resources,on big boats,may be you are not asking the righlbt questions from the right people.

suggest you start on the $500/month thread and up scale accordingly that way with knowledge you may find your 500,000 followers to pay for your aspirations......best atoll

I thank you very much but I thank I will have to buil the Boat my self and not do the geal coat just Plywood and Fiberglass.
Then install every thing my self. You know like Eduson and the Light Bulb.
I like Catamrans that can do 10 knots and 200miles a day.
Then when I can I can geal coat it and sand it and buff it.
A nice dream with a lettuce garden on board.
Thank you for talking to me this is nice.

[shadow]

Originally Posted by NativeUSAindian

I thank you very much but I thank I will have to buil the Boat my self and not do the geal coat just Plywood and Fiberglass.
Then install every thing my self. You know like Eduson and the Light Bulb.
I like Catamrans that can do 10 knots and 200miles a day.
Then when I can I can geal coat it and sand it and buff it.
A nice dream with a lettuce garden on board.
Thank you for talking to me this is nice.

I'm not being facetious, but are you texting??

[shadow]

I'm also amazed that the San Fran area isn't crazy in prices.. I'm actually pleasantly surprised.. I used to live there and if I knew it was that affordable, I would've been on a boat years ago!??!

[John A]

Originally Posted by shadow

I'm also amazed that the San Fran area isn't crazy in prices.. I'm actually pleasantly surprised.. I used to live there and if I knew it was that affordable, I would've been on a boat years ago!??!

There are very long waiting lists for most marinias, and legal live-aboard permits in the SF Bay are limited.

Yhere's also thr commute! Living next to Oakland and working in South SF it would take me 2 1/2 hours to drive 19 miles acrossed the Bay Bridge and thru SF.

[barnakiel]

Originally Posted by zeehag

many can write about the cost of cruising-- however, is only the cost of THEIR cruising you are reading. i find it most entertaining to read about the folks who have to emulate others in their ventures rather than start out on their own adventures. "oh, but theXXXXX"S had this-- we soooo neeed it....." rofl.

Maybe rolf, maybe not!

After all we all share the same biology, similar education, similar environment. Would be surprising if we were NOT using others' experiences while finding our own ways.

From an angle, it will be labelled 'emulation'. From an other angle, it may be labelled 'learning'. I would not say we have to learn everything from our own experience. If the info we get from others is used wisely, it can save one from many a blind alley.

b.

[sailorchic34]

Actually the SF bay is not too bad price wise. Most marinas in the central bay run about $9 a foot though a few are higher, east bay marinas being less expensive, SF marinas being higher. Average liveaboard fees are $200 with a range of $150-$300 depending on marina. There are waiting lists, but several marinas are about half empty and there are real live a board slips available now at Marina Bay, which is not a bad marina, though the harbor master is a bit of a jerk. Most places I've stayed the parking is free, though you might need a parking pass. Marina bay where I was at for 3 years ran oh $530 ish a month for a 36' slip (for my 34' sailboat), Thats for slip, liveaboard fee and elect on average. It is about 1/2 full at the moment, I was there today visiting a friend.

Beni

[atoll]

Originally Posted by NativeUSAindian

I thank you very much but I thank I will have to buil the Boat my self and not do the geal coat just Plywood and Fiberglass.
Then install every thing my self. You know like Eduson and the Light Bulb.
I like Catamrans that can do 10 knots and 200miles a day.
Then when I can I can geal coat it and sand it and buff it.
A nice dream with a lettuce garden on board.
Thank you for talking to me this is nice.

Discussion Forum - Wharram Builders and Friends

try this site very good for home builders of low cost catamarans

[David_Old_Jersey]

Originally Posted by atoll

suggest you start on the $500/month thread

That was mean

[barnakiel]

Originally Posted by David_Old_Jersey

That was mean

499 would have been far meaner ;-))))

b.

[shadow]

Originally Posted by John A

There are very long waiting lists for most marinias, and legal live-aboard permits in the SF Bay are limited.

Yhere's also thr commute! Living next to Oakland and working in South SF it would take me 2 1/2 hours to drive 19 miles acrossed the Bay Bridge and thru SF.

You're not kidding.. We used to live in San Fran years ago and I would take the BART everywhere, meaning I lived in the eastern bay area..Driving there is way beyond NUTS!! One day, it literally took me over 4 hours to drive from the Presidio area to San Jose.. I was beyond stressed...LOL

[NativeUSAindian]

Originally Posted by atoll

Discussion Forum - Wharram Builders and Friends

try this site very good for home builders of low cost catamarans

Thank you very much my new plan is to get the people who make (The Oasis of the Sea) coast 1.5 Billion to build 8 of them conected to a central hub with a Harbor in the center for taxi cabe boats, and a garden to feed every one. It must stand up to 100foot waves with a capacity of 40,000.
For I need a place to make my garden with a Liveaboard boat that is safe and cheap, and yet have actcess to education.