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01-08-2012, 21:24
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Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: New England
Boat: Catalina 42 MKII
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Re: Captain, we have stowaways!
And they like to lay eggs in the joints and folds of cardboard boxes and packets. Dump all unnecessary paper and cardboard containers, paper bags etc. and try to avoid bringing any on-board.
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01-08-2012, 22:24
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#17
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Branched Oak Yacht Club, Wife is an Admiral in the Nebraska Navy
Boat: Clipper Marine 32 CC Aft Cabin Ketch
Posts: 1,211
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Something about this thread bugs me. Lol
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05-08-2012, 11:51
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#18
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Texas - USA
Boat: Twin Otter de Havilland Floatplane
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Re: Captain, we have stowaways!
In Egypt, Kerosene oil is used to kill ALL bugs; roaches, insects, u name it. It will stink the place for about 2-3 days, but ALL bugs will be gone. Kerosene oil is flammable and toxic if ingested. It is sprayed through holes and passageways. Kerosene should be used as an absolute last resort, short of setting the boat ablaze.
On the other hand, if you have a fungus (mold) problem, a mixture of bleach and formaldehyde (formalin) will do the trick. Nothing can grow in this mixture; 5-10% formaldehyde solution, for a day or two then rinse with a lot of water. Inhaling formaldehyde can cause liver cancer. It is very toxic and has a nauseating smell; limit your exposure time after cleaning the affected surfaces. Plenty of aeration after the cleanup is needed. Good luck!
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05-08-2012, 12:20
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: St. Petersburg, Florida
Boat: Gemini 3200
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Re: Captain, we have stowaways!
Mix up a paste of boric acid and sweetened condensed milk. Use enough boric acid to make a very stiff paste. Put a 1/2 teaspoon dab of the paste on a small square of aluminum foil. Make about 20 of these and place them in various places where the roaches can find them. Roaches love the sweetened condensed milk, ingest the boric acid, and take it back to the nest where they die and their nestmates ingest the boric acid acid from eating the bodies of their dead relatives. In short order you will be free of cockroaches at a very minimal cost.
Fabbian
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14-06-2016, 19:26
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#20
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Cruising the Gulf of Mexico.
Boat: 1980 Morgan 415
Posts: 1,452
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Re: Captain, we have stowaways!
I spent weeks last year dealing with a flea infestation. It took a couple of weeks but many hours of effort, research, Borax and dish washing liquid traps saved the day.
I just thought that was tough.
Bedbugs moved in couple of months ago and it has been a hell of a battle. I don't know that it is over yet. I tried a half dozen of the recommended insecticides plus diatomaceous earth and CO2 but only saw brief respite.
I found myself longing for some DDT. Nothing but the magic dirt offered residual protection. DDT not being readily available, I settled for Malathion.
I followed instruction from an old Dept of Agrculture pamphlet and today treated the boat with Malathion.
It sure would be nice to sleep in my bunk without the lil vampires comin to call.
Time will tell.
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14-06-2016, 19:30
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Melbourne Australia
Boat: Paper Tiger 14 foot, Gemini 105MC 34 foot Catamaran Hull no 825
Posts: 2,912
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Re: Captain, we have stowaways!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cap Erict3
I spent weeks last year dealing with a flea infestation. It took a couple of weeks but many hours of effort, research, Borax and dish washing liquid traps saved the day.
I just thought that was tough.
Bedbugs moved in couple of months ago and it has been a hell of a battle. I don't know that it is over yet. I tried a half dozen of the recommended insecticides plus diatomaceous earth and CO2 but only saw brief respite.
I found myself longing for some DDT. Nothing but the magic dirt offered residual protection. DDT not being readily available, I settled for Malathion.
I followed instruction from an old Dept of Agrculture pamphlet and today treated the boat with Malathion.
It sure would be nice to sleep in my bunk without the lil vampires comin to call.
Time will tell.
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Direct sunlight kills bedbugs, hang your bedding out in the sun,
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14-06-2016, 19:55
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Cruising the Gulf of Mexico.
Boat: 1980 Morgan 415
Posts: 1,452
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Re: Captain, we have stowaways!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr B
Direct sunlight kills bedbugs, hang your bedding out in the sun,
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Were it that simple. Drying the bedding in high heat and treating the closed cell mattress have had little effect.
It is the many inaccessible tiny hiding places that seem to make contact treatment a waste of effort.
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15-06-2016, 05:21
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
Boat: (Cruiser Living On Dirt)
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Re: Captain, we have stowaways!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cap Erict3
Were it that simple. Drying the bedding in high heat and treating the closed cell mattress have had little effect...
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Bed bugs die when their body temperatures reaches about 120°F to 130°F.
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15-06-2016, 07:11
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Ireland
Posts: 69
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Re: Captain, we have stowaways!
I worked in a big hostel in Australia so dealt with a lot of bed bugs. We used to strip the rooms (bedding, curtains and rugs, suitcases and backpacks full of clothes) and freeze them for 24 hours. Not easy to freeze a whole boat but if you can get all the fabrics out and freeze them in a chest freezer it would get all the eggs. They lay the eggs in soft dark places.
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15-06-2016, 10:05
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#25
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Cruising the Gulf of Mexico.
Boat: 1980 Morgan 415
Posts: 1,452
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Re: Captain, we have stowaways!
Clothes, bedding and other fabrics are in CO2 filled plastic bags with a cloth soaked in Neem oil placed inside. They will stay on the dock and in my truck until this is whipped.
My temporary wardrobe is washed and dried along with bed linen every couple of days. I made a set of bright white sheets so that I might spot the teeny buggers at 3 am when they like to feed.
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15-06-2016, 11:28
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cat herder, extreme blacksheep
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: furycame alley , tropics, mexico for now
Boat: 1976 FORMOSA yankee clipper 41
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Re: Captain, we have stowaways!
we learned here that the lil brown nasty roaches come in via eggs in plywood. treat all ply with epoxy to seal it before bringing on board.
they also FLY into your boat from your groceries.
i have all openings now screened.. makes a difference
and YES they bite, and their eggs hatch in 4 days.
days not weeks.
be ready. pyrethrins work for fleas and roaches. remove pets and spray the **** outta your boat and leave traps and fill cracks with bug attracting and killing goo and vacuum a lot. it takes forever to remove all of em.
good luck.
mass murder of insects feels sooo gooood.
oh yes. GEKKOS!!!! LOVE these guys.
is fun to watch em eat a beetle bigger then they are. they make fast work of skeeters and jejenes as well.
awesome pets, as long as cat doesnt kill em all.
bubba seems to have developed a taste for gekko tails.....
vinegar works just fine for molds.. and isnt gonna require ye wear hazmat suits to use.
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15-06-2016, 13:08
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Lake Belton, TX, USA, Earth: 3rd rock from the Sun
Boat: Vagabond 14
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Re: Captain, we have stowaways!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Teknav
In Egypt, Kerosene oil is used to kill ALL bugs; roaches, insects, u name it. It will stink the place for about 2-3 days, but ALL bugs will be gone. Kerosene oil is flammable and toxic if ingested. It is sprayed through holes and passageways. Kerosene should be used as an absolute last resort, short of setting the boat ablaze.
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And if the kerosene doesn't kill the bugs the boat will be ready for the match....
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15-06-2016, 14:25
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Bellingham
Boat: Outbound 44
Posts: 9,319
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Re: Captain, we have stowaways!
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeremiason
We picked up cockroaches in Mexico... We tried all the usual stuff, sprays and cockroach cookies with boric acid/sugar. Nothig seemed to work.
My wife just about earned a PHD during her internet research on cockroaches...
What finally got rid of them was Combat Bait Trays...
Combat Roach & Ant Killing Baits & Gel Products to Get Rid of Bugs
What Lori found was that cockroaches are communial animals, will search out food and then return it to the nest. This is the best way to combat them, short of fumigating your vessel.
So we spread a bunch of those little bait trays around the boat and about a month later no more cockroaches!
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We went through the early online masters course- never graduated. Tried the many boric acid approaches. I think the little buggers like that stuff. The Combat gel judiciously placed on known trafficking routes was the ticket. They track it back to their dens of iniquity and share it with the other criminals. Genocide follows in a few days. Then another application to catch any eggs that hatch.
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15-06-2016, 22:50
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#29
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Cruising the Gulf of Mexico.
Boat: 1980 Morgan 415
Posts: 1,452
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Re: Captain, we have stowaways!
Quote:
Originally Posted by GordMay
Bed bugs die when their body temperatures reaches about 120°F to 130°F.
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Has anyone that you know tried this on their boat? I know running sheets in a dryer at that temp is supposed to do the trick.
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15-06-2016, 22:59
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Mediterranean
Boat: CT-47
Posts: 199
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Re: Captain, we have stowaways!
Not bed bugs but termites.... A friend of mine had them in his boat, tried everything for months but could not get rid of them.
Final solution was to fumigate the whole boat and this was the end of them.
Looking back, he should have fumigated earlier, would have saved quite some money for the damages they caused.
"Vikane" is the stuff used for fumigation, but should be done by professionals only
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