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Old 26-09-2019, 17:09   #16
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I can’t speak from the experience of bluewater sailing but I am told that my PC 31 is up to the task. I know this one was taken across the Atlantic by previous owners and it seems to be built like a brick outhouse.

It offers plenty of room for myself for long term cruising. It feels roomier than some longer beamier boats due to the open layout.

It is a better boat than I deserve and I enjoy having a boat that I feel deserves my time and care.

Nope, it's starts with the PC34!

It's funny how they do the cutoff's I think.

They have my Bristol 27 on most Bluewater Boat lists but most people would never consider crossing on ocean on one.

http://www.mahina.com/cruise.html
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Old 26-09-2019, 18:50   #17
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Nope, it's starts with the PC34!


Why? What is the critical difference?
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Old 26-09-2019, 20:24   #18
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Re: blue water cruiser

Bluewaterboats is interesting but not the final word by any means. I see recently they no longer have the "boats to vote for" which had many other candidates that were not yet included. It's a good reference to see what kinds of boats and designs have been considered good long range cruisers by some people. I doubt all would agree the Mahina list is the final word either.
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Why? What is the critical difference?
I am guessing its stowage and weight-carrying ability.
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Old 26-09-2019, 22:29   #20
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Re: blue water cruiser

The PC 34 does not have proportionately more capacity than the PC 31 given the canoe stern. Looks really nice though and I imagine there are other advantages and disadvantages. I bought my boat off a Bluewater cruising couple so its stowage is certainly adequate for one. I wonder about lists like this.

How much attention is really given to the particular individual specimens and their unique characteristics vs general numerical parameters? I can’t argue the point but I remember another list that did classify the PC31 as a “bluewater boat.” Presence or absence of something on a list doesn’t help me unless I can find out why. I have noted that the angle of vanishing stability is somewhat smaller than for the canoe stern PC models. Perhaps that was on this publishers screening parameters.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_circumnavigations
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Why? What is the critical difference?
Not sure. That was my point.

You'll have to ask the guy that made the list and started with the PC34. (Not the PC31)

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Do you mean PS when you say PC?


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Re: blue water cruiser

This book has a lot of good info and a chapter on the “ideal” boat.

https://www.amazon.com/Singlehanded-.../dp/0070281645

Even if sailing as a couple you are really single handed most of the time so I think it’s a good book for many.
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Do you mean PS when you say PC?


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Yes. Pacific Seacraft. Thank you.
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I can’t speak from the experience of bluewater sailing but I am told that my PC 31 is up to the task. I know this one was taken across the Atlantic by previous owners and it seems to be built like a brick outhouse.

It offers plenty of room for myself for long term cruising. It feels roomier than some longer beamier boats due to the open layout.

It is a better boat than I deserve and I enjoy having a boat that I feel deserves my time and care.
I'm sure you've probably read this, but in case you haven't:

https://arachnoid.com/sailbook/

This is the account of Paul Lutus' circumnavigation on a Pacific Seacraft 31. He has a few negative things to say about the boat (mainly speed), but never questions its ability to cross oceans.

Lutus is a talented writer and the account is worth reading.
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I have not seen it. Thank you very much.
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