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26-09-2019, 17:09
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Hampton Roads, VA
Boat: Bristol 27
Posts: 7,165
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Re: blue water cruiser
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Originally Posted by Salty Possum
I can’t speak from the experience of bluewater sailing but I am told that my PC 31 is up to the task. I know this one was taken across the Atlantic by previous owners and it seems to be built like a brick outhouse.
It offers plenty of room for myself for long term cruising. It feels roomier than some longer beamier boats due to the open layout.
It is a better boat than I deserve and I enjoy having a boat that I feel deserves my time and care.
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Nope, it's starts with the PC34!
It's funny how they do the cutoff's I think.
They have my Bristol 27 on most Bluewater Boat lists but most people would never consider crossing on ocean on one.
http://www.mahina.com/cruise.html
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26-09-2019, 18:50
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#17
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Niceville, Florida
Boat: Pacific Seacraft 31
Posts: 42
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Re: blue water cruiser
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Originally Posted by thomm225
Nope, it's starts with the PC34!
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Why? What is the critical difference?
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26-09-2019, 20:24
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Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Channel Islands, CA
Boat: 1962 Columbia 29 MK 1 #37
Posts: 10,011
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Re: blue water cruiser
Bluewaterboats is interesting but not the final word by any means. I see recently they no longer have the "boats to vote for" which had many other candidates that were not yet included. It's a good reference to see what kinds of boats and designs have been considered good long range cruisers by some people. I doubt all would agree the Mahina list is the final word either.
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1962 Columbia 29 MKI #37
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26-09-2019, 20:30
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Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Channel Islands, CA
Boat: 1962 Columbia 29 MK 1 #37
Posts: 10,011
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Re: blue water cruiser
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Originally Posted by Salty Possum
Why? What is the critical difference?
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I am guessing its stowage and weight-carrying ability.
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26-09-2019, 22:29
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Niceville, Florida
Boat: Pacific Seacraft 31
Posts: 42
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Re: blue water cruiser
The PC 34 does not have proportionately more capacity than the PC 31 given the canoe stern. Looks really nice though and I imagine there are other advantages and disadvantages. I bought my boat off a Bluewater cruising couple so its stowage is certainly adequate for one. I wonder about lists like this.
How much attention is really given to the particular individual specimens and their unique characteristics vs general numerical parameters? I can’t argue the point but I remember another list that did classify the PC31 as a “bluewater boat.” Presence or absence of something on a list doesn’t help me unless I can find out why. I have noted that the angle of vanishing stability is somewhat smaller than for the canoe stern PC models. Perhaps that was on this publishers screening parameters.
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26-09-2019, 23:08
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#21
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Central California
Boat: M/V Carquinez Coot
Posts: 3,739
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Re: blue water cruiser
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27-09-2019, 04:14
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#22
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Hampton Roads, VA
Boat: Bristol 27
Posts: 7,165
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Re: blue water cruiser
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Originally Posted by Salty Possum
Why? What is the critical difference?
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Not sure. That was my point.
You'll have to ask the guy that made the list and started with the PC34. (Not the PC31)
Mahina Expeditions - Selecting A Boat for Offshore Cruising
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29-09-2019, 09:40
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#23
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: between the devil and the deep blue sea
Boat: a sailing boat
Posts: 20,485
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Re: blue water cruiser
Do you mean PS when you say PC?
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29-09-2019, 09:50
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#24
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Senior Cruiser

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Between Caribbean and Canada
Boat: Murray 33-Chouette & Pape Steelmaid-44-Safara-both steel cutters
Posts: 6,790
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Re: blue water cruiser
This book has a lot of good info and a chapter on the “ideal” boat.
https://www.amazon.com/Singlehanded-.../dp/0070281645
Even if sailing as a couple you are really single handed most of the time so I think it’s a good book for many.
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29-09-2019, 17:06
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#25
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Niceville, Florida
Boat: Pacific Seacraft 31
Posts: 42
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Re: blue water cruiser
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Originally Posted by barnakiel
Do you mean PS when you say PC?
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Yes. Pacific Seacraft. Thank you.
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30-09-2019, 03:38
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#26
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Brazil
Boat: Custom Swedish Vindö 50 (35 ft)
Posts: 685
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Re: blue water cruiser
Quote:
Originally Posted by Salty Possum
I can’t speak from the experience of bluewater sailing but I am told that my PC 31 is up to the task. I know this one was taken across the Atlantic by previous owners and it seems to be built like a brick outhouse.
It offers plenty of room for myself for long term cruising. It feels roomier than some longer beamier boats due to the open layout.
It is a better boat than I deserve and I enjoy having a boat that I feel deserves my time and care.
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I'm sure you've probably read this, but in case you haven't:
https://arachnoid.com/sailbook/
This is the account of Paul Lutus' circumnavigation on a Pacific Seacraft 31. He has a few negative things to say about the boat (mainly speed), but never questions its ability to cross oceans.
Lutus is a talented writer and the account is worth reading.
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30-09-2019, 06:28
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#27
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Niceville, Florida
Boat: Pacific Seacraft 31
Posts: 42
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Re: blue water cruiser
I have not seen it. Thank you very much.
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