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23-01-2018, 14:04
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Re: Bilge Keelers, a thing of the past?
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23-01-2018, 14:22
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Boat: Westerly Sealord
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Re: Bilge Keelers, a thing of the past?
Westerly bilge/twin keelers....
Centaur, Chieftain, Warwick, Jouster, W21, Pageant, Berwick, Pentland, Solway, Galway, W33, W35, Discus, Konsort, Vulcan, Griffon, Spirit, Regatta, Fulmar, Seahawk, Oceandream, Oceanquest, Falcon, Riviera, Storm Cruiser, Regatta, Ocean 33, Tempest....
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23-01-2018, 14:27
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Senior Cruiser
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Location: PORTUGAL
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Re: Bilge Keelers, a thing of the past?
He's placed a limit on the beam.. 2.6metres.
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23-01-2018, 14:29
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Re: Bilge Keelers, a thing of the past?
He ( the OP ) did not.......
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23-01-2018, 14:35
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Re: Bilge Keelers, a thing of the past?
Quote:
Originally Posted by El Pinguino
He ( the OP ) did not.......
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Bugga..!!!! long term memory's fading..
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23-01-2018, 14:45
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Re: Bilge Keelers, a thing of the past?
Why has nobody mentioned the Sadler family of yachts ? I recently bought a Sadler 29 bilge keeler, which is a fine sea-boat, and which I intend to take to Portugal come August/early September. pics readily available at <yachtsnet.co.uk>. She behaved very well on the delivery trip from Cardiff to Portland. Is there anyone who has sailed mid- to long passages with a sadler 29 ? I would appreciate some feedback HUGELY ! Marco Koppenhagen, a new recruit to this webpage and forums in general
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23-01-2018, 14:55
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Location: Gympie
Boat: Volkscruiser
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Re: Bilge Keelers, a thing of the past?
Check out B & G Yacht design. He has some fantastic twin keel, twin rudder yacht designs.
BG Yacht Design - Pop 25
Cheers
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23-01-2018, 15:01
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Re: Bilge Keelers, a thing of the past?
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Originally Posted by boatman61
Or if you can go to a beam of 2.9
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I'm afraid that 2.6m/8'6" is a hard dealbreaker limit.
And yes, I'm not the OP, so please just post possible boats here, any discussion of my idiosyncratic desires here http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ts-193354.html so as to not derail.
Standing room is not a hard requirement, but a bit stronger than "would be nice".
Living space and storage are certainly higher priorities.
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23-01-2018, 15:25
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Re: Bilge Keelers, a thing of the past?
Quote:
Originally Posted by john61ct
I'm afraid that 2.6m/8'6" is a hard dealbreaker limit.
And yes, I'm not the OP, so please just post possible boats here, any discussion of my idiosyncratic desires here http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ts-193354.html so as to not derail.
Standing room is not a hard requirement, but a bit stronger than "would be nice".
Living space and storage are certainly higher priorities.
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Trailable? Shoal draft? Blue water?
Look no further... a Drascombe Lugger is the boat for you... CHIDIOCK TICHBORNE
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23-01-2018, 15:35
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Re: Bilge Keelers, a thing of the past?
Or knock yourself up a copy of James Caird.... seaworthy enough methinks... this replica is in Punta Arenas.
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23-01-2018, 15:40
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Re: Bilge Keelers, a thing of the past?
Or.. he could go large.. the Crabber 24..
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23-01-2018, 15:54
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Re: Bilge Keelers, a thing of the past?
I love bilge keelers. Had three.
Replacing with a catamaran... but keeping the Centaur as well.
Boatie may well be right in his thoughts on a saturated used bilge keel market related to the demise of new builds. I spent my 'youf' in and around them. Seemed thats all there were given the long tides....
Part of my history... Westerlys...
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23-01-2018, 17:31
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Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Nevis, West Indies
Boat: Seawolf 30
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Re: Bilge Keelers, a thing of the past?
I sail a Seawolf30 twin fin here in the Caribbean, good headroom and sails into the trades remarkably well. Love the boat. It was sailed in the North Sea, English Channel and the Med. Greece and Turkey particularly
Designed by David Feltham. Great fun to sail
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23-01-2018, 18:16
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cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2017
Boat: Retired from CF
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Re: Bilge Keelers, a thing of the past?
Quote:
Originally Posted by boatman61
Or.. he could go large.. the Crabber 24..
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Now all kidding aside, *that* looks *nice*!
Can't afford new, old ones built good 'n strong?
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24-01-2018, 00:42
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Location: Queensland, Australia
Boat: None at present--between vessels. Ex Piver Loadstar 12.5 metres
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Re: Bilge Keelers, a thing of the past?
Bilge keelers are still popular in the Land of Oz--where the need to sneak into shallower creeks and over bars, not to mention sitting nicely on the hard sand--make them favourites.
A modification are longer but shorter bilge keels--making for excellent downwind sailing but not so great at going uphill. Something most cruising folk prefer not to do anyway.
They are often given as an option when buying plans for steel vessels.
Personally I prefer them--but then--I am not in a hurry to get anywhere in particular--and nosing on to a sheltered deserted beach is a good thing. As long as one does not do it at high tide when the next tide height will be lower.
Lash a couple of boards to the deck to use under the keels--with a retrieve rope to each one.
Ideal for coastal cruising.
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