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Old 22-10-2021, 22:17   #1
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Your 2022 Cruising Plans/Philosophy?

2022 is close at hand.

Still delays and uncertainty as to how Governments will manage new Covid Surges or more infectious Varients. Will Borders stay open if that happens?

Horror stories of liveaboard cruisers separated from their homes/boats or being forced to depart into bad seasonal conditions.

Cruising costs rising as transient yachts are being treated now as Commercial Customers, rather than tourists..

Political tensions worldwide on the upswing

Rampant inflation and parts shortages as supply chains falter

Even the Orcas have turned against cruisers off of Spain.

Most were forced to pause during 2020 and 2021, especially in Asia

Anyone making concrete plans to sail towards a different country that is presently closed down to them or begin a circumnavigation?

My own plans in Asia are to be far more conservative for 2022 by staying in my resident country Philippines, then hope that 2023 has returned to normalcy to cruise Malaysia and Indonesia.

Long distance voyaging is no longer attractive.
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Old 23-10-2021, 01:16   #2
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2022 is close at hand ...
... and I wonder, why you're so negative.

Even assuming all your fears are true - which I don't believe - why don't you go on and be a cruiser? Cruisers have decades in dealing with supply chain problems, shortages of all kind, stupid regulations and mother nature not conforming to their wishes and messing up plans. I can't think of any other group of people more prepared and trained to deal with the current hickups.

It makes no difference whether Walmart doesn't stock your favourite peanut-butter or being on an isolated island where they don't even have a word for peanut-butter in their language. Same with Amazon being unable to deliver a left-threaded whazamathingy or being in a place where the mail-ship arrives every other month and customs pulls out every available rule in the book to clear it in the short time between late start in the morning, coffee-break, siesta and early close-down in the afternoon.

As for me I plan to sail next year past Gibraltar to fill up my diesel tanks and do some Orca-watching.
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Old 23-10-2021, 05:50   #3
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... and I wonder, why you're so negative.

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Old 23-10-2021, 06:26   #4
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Going by the number of cruisers I met in the last few months sailing Westward towards the exit of the Mediterranean to cross the Atlantic in Winter, long distance voyaging isn't dead.

And even if it were, this might be an opportunity to explore things closer by.
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Old 23-10-2021, 06:30   #5
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The pandemic has taught me to avoid making firm plans -- even less so that I did in the past. So at this point I'm hoping to get back to my boat, but I'm not making any plans beyond that. And I'm prepared to see the world go back into lockdown again when the next, more virulent variant, shows up.

My hope is that when I get back to my boat in the Spring, after two and a half years of absence, that there won't be too much damage that I'll need to recover from. But I fully expect the coming season to be one of modest cruising, and mostly repairing/recovering.
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Old 23-10-2021, 07:54   #6
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No firm plans but we have been talking about going up to Albania and Croatia.
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Old 23-10-2021, 08:46   #7
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Assuming Canadian/US regulations will permit (with all caveats being met, of course) we plan on continuing our northward explorations which we started in 2019.

And I can't wait...
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Old 23-10-2021, 08:58   #8
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I'm spending 2022 getting my boat ready for extensive cruising in 2023, but that was always my plan. In the Caribbean, at least, cruising is possible, though in some countries you may have to endure a multi-day quarantine period. Quarantine has gone away in many places if you are fully vaccinated. I don't view a two-day quarantine in Grenada, for example, as a reason not to cruise. I'm less familiar with what Asian countries are doing, but I know they are much more restrictive.
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Old 23-10-2021, 09:01   #9
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Saw an interview with the CEO of Phizer or Maderna vaccines who stated by next summer they will have produced enough vaccines for the entire world. Now can they be shipped, delivered and into peoples arms? Don't know. But if the Canadians will let me in next year as they are now, I'm heading North to Alaska this summer and the Mexico after that. I'm hoping the S Pacific will be open and expect it will be but if it isn't, go to plan B which I'll make up as I go along.
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Old 23-10-2021, 09:27   #10
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2022:Start from Sicily late April then through France to the UK via the inland waterway system. This past season was the Eastern Dodecanese around the bottom of Greece, up the east coast as far as Corfu, then Bari, Italy and on to Sicily. There was more paperwork and a bit more official disorganization, but one could move. We had heard getting in and out of Albania might be an issue so sadly we missed it. Fortunately we have enough Schengen time left to get out of the EU before it runs it's most recent 18 months out. So far both Greece and Italy do not count the time spend on the hard or when the vessel is not in use. Portugal not so and no idea yet about Spain or France. The actual EU laws governing that are subject to local ideas and interpretations sadly. I'm hoping 2022 is going to be easier than 2021 in that governments will have standardized systems in place re vaccination and moving from one country to the next.
The most difficult change of location for me was from Italy to the UK by air as the UK did not recognize Canada's vaccination regime or standards due to our Dear Child Leader having messed around with vac intervals and recommendations.
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Old 23-10-2021, 09:31   #11
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2022 boating

Flying to research Puerto rico in two hours for potential retirement in 7 years.

27 hour sailing class at local yacht club in june. They have boat slips & rent out small sailboats.

Launch canoe I've had for 2 years & not sure it floats.

4 cruises on NCL probably to carribean /Mexico leaving from US/Tampa. Probably cancel our Mediterranean cruise because of covid logistics.

Week of fishing in Wisconsin in rental fishing boat with 9 horse & aforementioned canoe.

Fishing/canoeing in Minnesota with family for a week.

Creek/river Float trip with nephews in 4 cheap blow up boats.
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Great plans Tennis4789. Sounds like my 2020. Finally rebuilt my 1920 Old Town Otka, made a few nice paddles and floated around inland lakes in B.C. No sailing at all as we couldn't exit Canada.
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At beginning of Covid I had two back to back NCL cruises canceled . Gf n i just canceled a Mediterranean cruise last month. Now I've got to figure out how to fit like 4 or 5 cruises into 2022 or I lose my money. Wish it was cash back vs cruise credit. & casinos just gave me 2 more "free" (ends up reduced price).

& I'm trying to work more to save for retirement. One cruise in hand is worth two in the bush?
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Watched the video. I can see their dilemma: can't fix the boat in Indo, have to pay a lot to go to Thailand, and Malaysia might not welcome them back, (plus hard to get to).

So yeah, cruising right now can be uncharacteristically difficult I guess.

Might be a good time to stay put for another year or cruise locally although it seems that many folks are just heading out anyhow filled with optimism. I wish them luck.

Us, we'll cruise in Mexico in 2022, probably go to Baja and the Sea of Cortez and avoid crossing borders.

By the way, we sailed the exact same waters intending to go to the same Indonesian destination, also had to turn back to Malaysia, but our weather there was a bit more challenging.
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2022 is close at hand.

Still delays and uncertainty as to how Governments will manage new Covid Surges or more infectious Varients. Will Borders stay open if that happens?

Horror stories of liveaboard cruisers separated from their homes/boats or being forced to depart into bad seasonal conditions.

Cruising costs rising as transient yachts are being treated now as Commercial Customers, rather than tourists..

Political tensions worldwide on the upswing

Rampant inflation and parts shortages as supply chains falter

Even the Orcas have turned against cruisers off of Spain.

Most were forced to pause during 2020 and 2021, especially in Asia

Anyone making concrete plans to sail towards a different country that is presently closed down to them or begin a circumnavigation?

My own plans in Asia are to be far more conservative for 2022 by staying in my resident country Philippines, then hope that 2023 has returned to normalcy to cruise Malaysia and Indonesia.

Long distance voyaging is no longer attractive.
General Dwight D. Eisenhower said, "I never saw a plan I liked but I would never go into battle without one."

With that guidance in mind, make an optimistic plan A and a conservative plan B and let life make the decision for you.

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