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22-12-2012, 16:29
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Elvish meaning 'Far-Wanderer'
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Boat - Greece - Me - Michigan
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Re: New RTW route
If things keep going the way they are right now, in 10 years I'd be worried about the pirates operating out of Nantucket
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23-12-2012, 00:45
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Re: New RTW route
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Originally Posted by Palarran
If things keep going the way they are right now, in 10 years I'd be worried about the pirates operating out of Nantucket 
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I thought the pirates are still operating out of DC and only go to Nantucket for holidays.
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23-12-2012, 06:11
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Elvish meaning 'Far-Wanderer'
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Boat - Greece - Me - Michigan
Boat: 56' Fountaine Pajot Marquises
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Re: New RTW route
That's our current situation. 10 years from now the scurvy dogs will have retired all along the Eastern seaboard.
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24-12-2012, 13:48
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Moderator

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Between Caribbean and Canada
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Re: New RTW route
Perhaps of only limited use to you but a very neat blog.
A young couple with a pn old boat and little budget.
Shows what you can do on guts and love.
http://www.svramshackle.com/
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18-02-2013, 18:17
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Nearly an old salt
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Lefkas Marina ,Greece
Boat: Bavaria 36
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Looks very interesting. The northwest passage would be very doable as part of a larger effort.
Dave
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18-02-2013, 18:37
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Senior Cruiser

Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: gettin naughty on the beach in cornwall
Boat: 63 custom alloy sloop,macwester26,prout snowgoose 37 elite catamaran!
Posts: 10,598
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Re: New RTW route
seems to be a lot of if's and variables there for the proposed route!
ie; if the red sea passage is safe,and if their is summer ice in the nw passage rendering it impassable.
i wonder if they will refund the $28000 entry fee if both routes are unfeasable
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18-02-2013, 19:03
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: San Francisco Bay
Boat: Fantasia 35
Posts: 1,257
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Re: New RTW route
It looks like Jimmy thinks that by 2015/16 the pirate problem will be history.
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18-02-2013, 19:12
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Senior Cruiser

Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: gettin naughty on the beach in cornwall
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Re: New RTW route
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Originally Posted by Viking Sailor
It looks like Jimmy thinks that by 2015/16 the pirate problem will be history.

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great idea to send a flotilla of wealthy guinea pigs to test the theory
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18-02-2013, 19:22
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: San Francisco Bay
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Re: New RTW route
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Originally Posted by atoll
great idea to send a flotilla of wealthy guinea pigs to test the theory 
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Or maybe, he is planning on hiring a flotilla of merc's to protect them. That could account for the 28 grand fee.
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19-02-2013, 10:06
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Vancouver, BC
Boat: Niagara 35
Posts: 1,878
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Re: New RTW route
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Originally Posted by atoll
seems to be a lot of if's and variables there for the proposed route!
ie; if the red sea passage is safe,and if their is summer ice in the nw passage rendering it impassable.
i wonder if they will refund the $28000 entry fee if both routes are unfeasable
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Here's the comments on both the NW passage and Red Sea passage from the website:
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CW: For those who choose some of the more challenging routes, I’m thinking of the Northwest Passage, for example, what will be the role of the organizers?
JC: Participants who intend to sail that route will be briefed on all safety aspects, as their boats need to be thoroughly equipped, and will be inspected that they confirm with the safety requirements. With safety being uppermost in our mind, we shall ensure that we have plenty of time for the transit itself as in that part of the world being able to wait for favorable conditions is absolutely essential. We shall therefore have access to the latest weather information and are also being advised by other sailors who have transited in recent years.
CW: Speaking of the Northwest Passage, what happens if current trends reverse and the passage remains ice blocked?
JC: The 2014 Northwest Passage timing has been scheduled in such a way that if conditions in summer and early autumn for a transit of the Northwest Passage are considered to be unfavorable or dangerous, the timing will allow for the route to be amended so that participants will be able to sail south from Iceland and Southern Greenland to the U.S. East Coast. They will then have the choice of joining the New York or Miami starts that will merge with the main route in either the Eastern Caribbean or Panama.
CW: Will catamarans and composite (i.e. fiberglass) boats allowed on the Northwest Passage leg?
JC: We have spoken to a leading catamaran boat builder who has expressed his concern at the risk posed to composite hulls by needle ice, a feature of melting bergs. Some participants are having their hulls reinforced in the bows and along other critical areas. We are treating each case individually before we decide whether to allow a boat to tackle that route or not. So far we have had no interest from catamaran owners. As to the building material itself, of course it would be preferable for it to be metal, but we do not intend to object to composite hulls as such, provided they are well built, and the owner is fully aware of the risk involved. I must point out that we had two fiberglass boats sail with the Millennium Odyssey to Antarctica, where conditions are similar, and neither suffered more than superficial, cosmetic, damage.
CW: What are your plans for transiting some of the notable hotspots for piracy, particularly in the Indian Ocean?
JC: Bear in mind that there have been no incident involving cruising boats for the last year, and even attacks on commercial ships have virtually ceased in that area. But we are talking about sailing through that area more than three years in the future, and while we are obviously keeping that area under constant observation, any decision will need to be taken nearer the time. However, and not just in that part of the world, because of safety concerns, logistical or political considerations, some countries or stopover ports on the proposed route may have to be avoided and the route and schedule amended accordingly. The proposed route is planned to transit the North Indian Ocean to the Red Sea and Mediterranean but if the situation in that area is considered not to be safe, the route will be amended to reach the Atlantic Ocean by way of the Cape of Good Hope. There is also another fallback scenario but it would be premature to discuss or disclose its details now.
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19-02-2013, 10:24
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Hayes, Virginia
Boat: 1962 28' Pearson Triton
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Re: New RTW route
Here's something else to think about -- unless you have a specific goal for completing a circumnavigation, you can sail all over and see the world from the deck of a sailboat without ever having actually sailed "around" the world.
As I plan my trip, that's what it's starting to look like will happen with me. For 30 years I've dreamed of seeing the world from the deck of a sailboat, not sailing around the world.
Of course, there are people who do have this specific goal in mind.
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19-02-2013, 10:35
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Vancouver, BC
Boat: Niagara 35
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Re: New RTW route
Yeah, I have to admit that I'm pretty goal oriented.
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23-02-2013, 20:51
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Vancouver, BC
Boat: Niagara 35
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Interesting. I just found out a friend of mine has signed on to the Odyssey with Jimmy.
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24-02-2013, 00:17
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Arctic Ocean
Boat: Under construction 35' ketch (and +3 smaller)
Posts: 3,005
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Re: New RTW route
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Originally Posted by cwyckham
then up to Norther Europe (really want to cruise Denmark and Stockholm and the Norwegian coast), then accross the top via Iceland to the NW passage, through the passage and down to Alaskan panhandle, then back to PNW via Haida Gwaii....
Not sure on timing or route for North Atlantic crossing. Likely need to lay up the boat in Newfoundland and then head North the next summer for the NW passage?
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Last summer the Northeast passage was open for 50 days north of Sibirian islands. If it's the case in the future too it's less than 3000nm from Tromso Norway to Nome Alaska. If not intende to visit Greenland the it's a much better route to Alaska from Europe IMHO. So far the Russia has been difficult with the bureaucracy but the open sea further north opens the passage far beyond their territorial waters.
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