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29-09-2014, 19:19
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Lake Erie to Saint Petersburgh, Russia
Thinking of buying a Alberg 30 in Lake Erie. Then in five years sailing it to Cape Breton,Nova Scotia. The next summer taking off for Saint Petersburgh, Russia; stopping in Aberdeen, Scotland; Copenhagen and Helsinki.
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30-09-2014, 12:21
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Re: Lake Erie to Saint Petersburgh, Russia
Maybe it will be a Seafarer 31, maybe we should go through the Channel instead of the Upper North Sea. Crossing the North Atlantic in early June is the best time of year but still cold for Northern Scotland.
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08-10-2014, 11:43
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Re: Lake Erie to Saint Petersburgh, Russia
sound like a great trip!
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09-10-2014, 06:33
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Re: Lake Erie to Saint Petersburgh, Russia
...if climate will be in 2020 as in 2013/14 here at Baltic we 're gonna plant palms..
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07-01-2015, 22:29
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Re: Lake Erie to Saint Petersburgh, Russia
Looking for charts now. Do not think we will have electronic charts. Want a mechanical autopilot.
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08-01-2015, 06:08
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Re: Lake Erie to Saint Petersburgh, Russia
Quote:
Originally Posted by artisthos
Looking for charts now. Do not think we will have electronic charts. Want a mechanical autopilot.
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..at least for the europeen part of the journey digital maps could be more helpful because of fast updates.
In North Sea, Channel, Baltic Sea etc. are lots of windpower plants, oil riggs and mobile platforms under construction.
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08-01-2015, 08:12
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Re: Lake Erie to Saint Petersburgh, Russia
Cool, will have electronic charts plus paper.
Thinking of using VHF with screen to keep track of AIS targets in the fog. Probably will not have radar.
Training the owner for this trip. He is in year three and doing well. Wants to take his grandchildren on ocean voyages around 2035.
Thanks for a great site.
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23-01-2015, 05:05
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Re: Lake Erie to Saint Petersburgh, Russia
Why no radar?
how will you cope with fog off of newfoundland?
If you have AIS, pend the few extra bucks and get send/receive. It makes all the difference in ships seeing YOU.
I use the Jeppesen CMap charts as I found them the least expensive for full European charts. ANd North America as well.
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23-01-2015, 08:55
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Re: Lake Erie to Saint Petersburgh, Russia
Last time I sailed through the fog off Newfoundland with radar we spotted no ships. I guess it would be prudent to have radar but it just makes electric consumption an issue. I will be advising the owner on outfitting the boat. IF he wants radar we will get it but I would rather have a great AIS system.
Thanks for the information on the charts.
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25-01-2015, 08:39
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Re: Lake Erie to Saint Petersburgh, Russia
We did Inverness to Copenhagen in 5 days in a 39 foot ketch last year. When I planned to do it in June I checked average weather for time of year and it looked pretty good for wind. Certainly not too cold. The days were very long. The N Sea always has a fairly unpleasant wave motion I think. You can read about our experience in my log. Good luck with your trip.
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25-01-2015, 08:56
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Re: Lake Erie to Saint Petersburgh, Russia
Watch the paths of the lows heading across the North Atlantic during June. They pass over Nova Scotia and then east with a slight drift up toward Scotland. They seem to follow the great circle. Many of these pack a serious wallop. Staying below 45 degrees will help. We watched 4 strong gales pass just to our north on our 2010 crossing.
We spent a fair amount of time side-stepping them. Our original route was the great circle to Oban.
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25-01-2015, 10:00
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Re: Lake Erie to Saint Petersburgh, Russia
Gotta be better places than Aberdeen to stop off at . I know, I work there.
Inverness, Banff, Dundee to name a few would be nicer stops.
As for traffic off Newfie, dont forget there a few drilling rigs working off there, lots of wave data buoys, and all the tugs and supply boats, I know that as well, as was working off Newfie up to the end of 2014.
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24-02-2015, 19:53
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Re: Lake Erie to Saint Petersburgh, Russia
Wow, thanks for the tips.
Now we are looking at a Bayfield 32.
May follow John Quincy Adams route when he went from Boston to St. Pete.
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22-04-2015, 06:25
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Re: Lake Erie to Saint Petersburgh, Russia
Still looking at yet another Bayfield 32' this one a 1976, I think the engine will have to be replaced. My real question is what is the possibility of rebuilding this engine and transmission for a trip to Russia and back. At least we would be in Sweden for awhile to get replacement parts for the transmission and near Germany to gets parts for the engine. Engine 25 HP, Farymann, Inboard, Diesel, Direct Drive, 25 hp V-twin Farymann diesel (sea-water cooled) very fuel efficient; burns about 0.7 L per hour when motoring at 5 knots, Transmission: Sundstrand Hydraulic/hydrostatic drive, original engine with hydraulic transmission from Sweden, runs great, per owner
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