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13-11-2009, 08:05
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Stavanger
Boat: Ovni 445
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VAT Question on Registering a Boat
Hello,
The boat I own is registered in South Africa to the company that I bought the boat from. V.A.T. has not been paid on the boat. The time has now come to registering the boat in my name and I need to do it outside SA, because if I register the boat there I'll have to pay V.A.T.
I needless to say want to avoid paying the V.A.T., but what's the best way of doing just that?
Are there any smart ways to register the boat, to avoid paying the dreaded V.A.T?
In Norway the V.A.T. is 24%, so you can imagine how economically unviable paying that is for me. If it wasn't for the fact that I am returning to Norway with the boat early next year, I would register her there, because in Norway you don't need to pay the V.A.T. before you get the boat into Norwegian waters. Since I am returning home, I need to think of something smart. Does anyone have any god suggestions?
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13-11-2009, 08:45
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Devon, UK
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Normally you will have to pay tax when you import the boat to a county. If importing it to the EU you can pay the VAT at the first country in the EU that you arrive - so check out the relative rates of VAT.
Boat registration and payment of tax are separate issues - if you are a citizen of Norway, I would expect that you can register the boat under the Norwegian flag even if it is in South Africa and you will then have to pay VAT in an EU country on arrival in the EU
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13-11-2009, 09:01
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Location: Stavanger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by edsailing
Boat registration and payment of tax are separate issues - if you are a citizen of Norway, I would expect that you can register the boat under the Norwegian flag even if it is in South Africa and you will then have to pay VAT in an EU country on arrival in the EU
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Norway is not a part of the EU, so I wouldn't have to pay tax before I came to Norway, but that's not the point. I want to avoid the V.A.T. alltogether.
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13-11-2009, 09:11
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Devon, UK
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In that case you will have to keep the boat somewhere where there is no tax due on importation.
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14-11-2009, 12:37
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Shenzhen, China
Boat: Nauticat 42 (Jersey, U.K.)
Posts: 404
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Keep the boat in Jersey or Guernsey - no VAT.
You might have to pay import duty but that's very modest.
As non-EU and non-Commonwealth you can't personally register a boat on the UK register but if you form a Guernsey or Jersey company you can have the boat owned by that company and the company can then register the boat on the UK (Jersey) register
All the info is on the Jersey government website
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14-11-2009, 17:34
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: between the devil and the deep blue sea
Boat: a sailing boat
Posts: 21,140
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Keep it on the company.
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14-11-2009, 17:42
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: South coast of England, moving around a bit.
Boat: Long range motor cruiser
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Gibraltar is another possibility worth investigating.
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16-11-2009, 14:10
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 10
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Delaware registration advise
I am a german looking for a good company providing the a company + yacht registration in Delaware. Need adice please. Thanks
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16-11-2009, 14:26
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Toronto
Boat: CS36Merlin, "La Belle Aurore"
Posts: 7,557
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Just google Delaware yacht registration and you'll get more hits than you can shake a stick at.
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16-11-2009, 14:35
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: South coast of England, moving around a bit.
Boat: Long range motor cruiser
Posts: 750
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I understand that some countries look askance at Delaware registrations. Can anyone tell me why? Please.
Paige
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16-11-2009, 14:45
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Location: Toronto
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fishwife
I understand that some countries look askance at Delaware registrations. Can anyone tell me why? Please.
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I don't think so. It's no better or worse than Marshall Islands, St. Vincent or any other jurisdiction that makes yacht registry simple and relatively inexpensive. You still fly an American flag with Delaware registration. It's as good as any other US flagged vessel.
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17-11-2009, 05:03
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Armchair Bucketeer
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 10,012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fishwife
I understand that some countries look askance at Delaware registrations. Can anyone tell me why? Please.
Paige
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I think some countries associate Delaware Companies with tax evasion and money laundering. Can't think why
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17-11-2009, 06:25
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Jersey, Channel Islands
Boat: Beneteau 393
Posts: 36
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No - please don't register your boat in Jersey!!!!
There is a four-year waiting list for berths over here - and cats berths especially are in short supply. Jersey Harbours advised me NOT to proceed with a boat purchase if my intention was to keep it here in Jersey.
Nikki
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17-11-2009, 06:30
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Toronto
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Quote:
Originally Posted by David_Old_Jersey
I think some countries associate Delaware Companies with tax evasion and money laundering. Can't think why
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Hey Dave,
Are you sure you haven't got Delaware mixed up with one of those Channel Islands places???
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06-01-2010, 19:27
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Location: PORTUGAL
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If you are planing to live aboard and can prove you have no other home it is classed as a home and is VAT free... its a House Boat.
When you come to sell VAT is liable, is it holding an EU CE mark....???
If not that's another snag you'll hit when you want to sell.
Where do you plan on basing the boat... that could make a difference....
If Norway is not in the EU you'll only get hit for tax again when you get there.
Flag her in Anguilla, take her to the Med and base her in Spain or somewhere and winter her in Tunisia that will renew your 18mth VAT immunity
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