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Old 09-11-2020, 16:39   #1
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Help with Broker Jargon

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A broker has responded to my inquiry about a Vancouver, BC-based 1990 Catalina 42's provenance and engine hours with the following:

"The boat came from Clearwater, Florida when the current owner bought it. He believes it was a single owner boat at that point. The hour meter in the tach quit and a Hobbs meter was installed,... which I didn’t see. He will get me the hours."

Two questions:

1. What does this mean? I know what a tachometer does but I'm not nearly expert enough to understand why it would house the hour meter, and I don't know what a Hobbs meter is.

2. The boat's got that charter-friendly salon layout from my last post. Is the fact that it "came from" Florida a red flag?

Sorry for the lack of Steely Dan references in this post. I've been listening to a lot of Herbie Hancock lately.
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1. A Hobbs meter is a standalone hourmeter. Hourmeters are now mostly built into the tachometer. It means the tacho's meter died at some point and was replaced with the standalone meter. Hours on the Hobbs meter will therefore be more or less irrelevant unless someone recorded the original (tacho's) hours before it failed.


2. It could have been ridden hard and put away wet. Charter boats are like hire cars.
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It could have been ridden hard and put away wet.
The ridden hard part I totally understand. What do you mean by "put away wet"? (Sorry, I'm new here.)
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The ridden hard part I totally understand. What do you mean by "put away wet"? (Sorry, I'm new here.)
" Put away wet" is jargon to describe something that was abused.
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Well, rode hard means abused.

Put away wet means used but not maintained.
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Has no one here been on a horse? A horse that is ridden hard sweats a lot - gets wet. If put away in that state the sweat collects dirt, that turns to mud....

You can ride a horse hard, that's fine and doesn't constitute abuse. But then you should properly care for the horse afterward, give it a cool down walk and a rub down (no innuendo please). Pretty much the same things you would do for yourself after a hard workout at the gym.
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Re: Help with Broker Jargon

^^^^^ dsanduril has the right of this.

I guess not many people in the sailing fleet know about horse care. But maybe there's some overlap.

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If the boat had been in charter before (first owner), then is now for sale from the second, there is a good chance there is a lot of deferred maintenance the new buyer will want/have to do.


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The ridden hard part I totally understand. What do you mean by "put away wet"? (Sorry, I'm new here.)

As others have pointed out.


"ridden hard and put away wet" is a horse analogy which translates loosely to "abused and unmaintained" when it refers to mechanical stuff.
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Thats what I will tell my doc when she asks about my Covid 19lbs ... listen doc, its 2020 and I've been ridden hard and put away wet for most of the year.


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"ridden hard and put away wet" is a horse analogy which translates loosely to "abused and unmaintained" when it refers to mechanical stuff.
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Thank you all for these clarifications!

I probably could have asked my wife—she grew up with horses. This cross-over is a first for me.

I'm presently inquiring with the broker to learn more about the provenance. Will keep you updated if I need more help understanding anything.
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