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Old 02-12-2018, 12:59   #31
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Re: Getting a boat from Europe to the left coast?

1. If there is a dealer on the US or Canadian W coast for the boat you want ask them how they get their boats delivered from the factory.
2. If the boat you want to buy doesn't have a dealer on the W coast get the dimensions & weight of the boat you want & find the closest design that is sold here & ask the dealer - same as above.
3. Does the boat you want to buy have a removable keel? A 3.0 meter beam may fit canted in a 45' hi cube container or a 40' flat deck. So load anywhere in Europe with APL for example & take delivery at any W coast port in 30 - 45 days.
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When you find a shipping agent in Europe & he asks you where you want the boat shipped to. You point at a map of the continent and say "Left" coast or "Top left" for PNW. The shipping agent will not be a sailor!
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When you find a shipping agent in Europe & he asks you where you want the boat shipped to. You point at a map of the continent and say "Left" coast or "Top left" for PNW. The shipping agent will not be a sailor!
but he will know and understand what you are saying and talking about.
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Re: Getting a boat from Europe to the left coast?

I have had similar ideas. I have even priced out some scenarios. I agree that if you buy boat in Europe, explore Europe and Med first. If VAT was already paid your boat can stay there as long as you want. If VAT not paid you have 18 months before you move it to non EU country to reset your 18 months.
If you don't want to cross the pond...I got a quote of 20,000 dollars to move from Portugal to Port Everglades. To ship same 47 foot monohull across country was between 15-30 thousand dollars. Depends on deck height which is limited by bridge clearance. My boat would have required some disassembly to clear under bridges...or extra routing. It is hard to conceive of a scenario where the savings in Europe that would be worth shipping boat to Pacific Northwest .
To me buying a boat in Europe is only worth it if you plan on exploring Europe first. Then sail the trade routes across Atlantic to Caribbean then to Panama. Then to So Pac followed by some hard back tracking to Hawaii then a subsequent long trip over the Pacific high. I have heard going up west coast is difficult but doable.
I plan on doing this over 7 year time span in early retirement. I suspect that you could spend decades in the MeD alone and still not see it all.
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Re: Getting a boat from Europe to the left coast?

another possible route would be Europe->NY->Great Lakes->Nipigon
Ontario->Vancouver by rail, or truck on the trans-Canada highway.

attractions include NY Harbor, the Hudson past West Point, the
Barge Canal to Buffalo, thence up the great ship route to Lake
Superior....

the marina at Nipigon is good, and as a bonus the railroad bridge
that spans the Nipigon river provides a good loading point.
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Old 02-12-2018, 15:44   #36
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Re: Getting a boat from Europe to the left coast?

Hi, Laughing Warrior,

It is so much more convenient to buy a boat where you want to use it. Do go treat yourself to a look at the Fast Passage 39. Especially, so, since it is reported to be in good nick. We met one years ago, called "Grasshopper", in Kaneohe Bay, on Kauai, HI, whence it had sailed, from the PNW. Owned by a pathologist, or radiologist, iirc, at that time--this was in 1983, and I really am not sure. But definitely a cruising boat.


Just for chatting's sake, you could also come down from India, south towards Australia, utilize the southern route to as far east as you want to go, staying in the "roaring 40's", then head to the Australs, HI, and PNW. This is all by way of saying that there are many possible routes. With the option of popping up to NZ, a most attractive nation.
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I bought my current boat in Scotland. She was just the right one for me. A one off too. Sailed to Southampton. Shipped to US east coast. The shipping cost was part of the purchase price.
If you buy elsewhere and pay for shipping or delivery just look at the total price as the overall cost.
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Re: Getting a boat from Europe to the left coast?

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Hi, Laughing Warrior,

We met one years ago, called "Grasshopper", in Kaneohe Bay, on Kauai, HI, whence it had sailed, from the PNW.

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Since this has turned into a Geography thread just have to point out that Kaneohe Bay is on the Island of Oahu's windward side not Kauai's. Know it's even a few weeks since you've been there.
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Re: Getting a boat from Europe to the left coast?

To continue a little thread drift, has anybody shipped a boat on a RO RO from the west coast to anywhere in the Med. 34 foot on its own trailer???? Grant.
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Look at the Sceptre 41. Close to your requirements
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We did just this in 2017, 1/2 of it anyway. Bought the boat in Sweden and sailed her to Emshaven (netherlands) then shiped her as deck cargo to Jacksonville FL. 10-14 days and 10K. Short time across the Atlantic, and with time off, insurance provisioning etc, etc I probably broke even on the cost. Once in Jacksonvilel we brought the boat to Sarasota our selfs. In your case maybe truck her to PNW. We shiped onboard a dutch vessel who has lots of experinse with this, the whole process was documnted on film from the moment the slings got in the water untill she was secured on deck.
Can I ask what company you used? The quotes we've had from Caribbean to EU have been at least double that price!
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Not only do you need a good enough deal to cover the transport costs, you have to do it all remotely...you could easily burn an extra $10-20k with trips to check out boats and then going back and preparing it for transport (or paying someone to do it).

If you go with a delivery crew, plan on significant time and expense to make her seaworthy for major ocean voyages. Again, at additional expense and complication because you are doing it remotely.

Unless it's a heck of a deal or a one of a kind you absolutely must have, it makes far more sense to buy locally...particularly at the relatively small and common size range you listed.
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I can find many good cruisers in that size range locally for good prices to
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Re: Getting a boat from Europe to the left coast?

I know you wanted something newer than 30 yrs, but if the final destination is the PNW then I think I would want a nice hard top cabin. How about a Moody Carabineer, currently one on You Tube in the Carib.

https://www.theyachtmarket.com/boats_for_sale/1492492/

Also there is a Grenadier 119 or 134, finally slightly smaller the Halberdier.


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If you don't want to cross the pond...I got a quote of 20,000 dollars to move from Portugal to Port Everglades. To ship same 47 foot monohull across country was between 15-30 thousand dollars.
Damn.. $20K.. You need to shop around more..
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