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Old 16-11-2016, 22:05   #211
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I love fooling around with guns as well, lots of fun. Well I know Reagan is a hero to most Republicans but while he promised to shrink big Government he actually really grew it by a heck of a lot. He did inherit a poor economy and he certainly spent gobs of money but like all trickle down economic programs the poor just got poorer and the rich got richer. As a percentage of the deficit he added more dept than Obama who faced a much tougher economic mess thanks to what was handed to him. Frankly I'm not really a believer that one party is better than the other because for the most part it's business that creates all the jobs. There have been years when the USA was really going gang busters as in the Clinton years but don't you think that it's really just timing and who is ever in power gets the credit, kinda my point of view. Now back to your gun there, what do you use that military round for? It's ok but other calibers are more accurate if your into target shooting and it's not a great hunting round although it would certainly do the job.
First.. I'm not a Republican.

I was one of the poor who got rich during the Reagan years, but lost it all during Clinton. Clawed my way back from ruin during Bush 2, then remained financially stagnant during O'Bumbles.... so we went cruising.

Why the military rounds? Answer: Because I can, they were on sale and are fun to shoot through an Vepr AK.

BTW: Your math is a little off. The US debt grew to 1 trillion under Reagan. Obama grew the national debt by 10 trillion. One is less than ten.
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I went to Walmart today to stock up on some 7.62x51 NATO FMJ, and saw this at the checkout.

What's not to like about the guy? [emoji3]
As a Canadian living in the US, he checks all my boxes.
I agree Kenomac! My fantasy of Brad Pitt plus drugs and kinky sex is pretty much what gets me going everyday!
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Old 16-11-2016, 22:44   #213
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First.. I'm not a Republican.

I was one of the poor who got rich during the Reagan years, but lost it all during Clinton. Clawed my way back from ruin during Bush 2, then remained financially stagnant during O'Bumbles.... so we went cruising.

Why the military rounds? Answer: Because I can, they were on sale and are fun to shoot through an Vepr AK.

BTW: Your math is a little off. The US debt grew to 1 trillion under Reagan. Obama grew the national debt by 10 trillion. One is less than ten.
Well we have both had some major financial reversals over the years and we both went cruising so go figure. The caliber you have is almost identical to the 308 which is a great round, I was just kidding you a bit. No my math is good Reagan increased the deficit by 190% while Obama increased the deficit by 70%, remember I said deficit not debt.
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There sure is a lot of liberal media talking points on this thread. I believe a lot of the statements about Trump will be found to be untrue. The mainstream medias bias is insane to say the least. I recently read that two of the women that accused Trump of groping retracted their statement and admitted they were paid.

An observation about snowbirds and Healthcare.... I live in an area that has been a huge Snowbird destination for over 50 years and it is next to impossible to get a doctor's appointment in the winter time here and the parking lots at doctors offices are packed with Canadian license plates. I'm curious how that fits in with Canadian isurance. I do know that if you go to the doctor's office and just pay cash it's really not that expensive. Obamacare has been the biggest scam on American people in generations. When my oldest daughter was born about 11 years ago ( I got a late start ) and when I was ready to take my family home I had three choices. Pay for it with insurance that would have been a bit over 12k or make payments to them that would have been just over 9k or just write him a check for $2,800. It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out, I wrote the check.

It seems most on this thread are missing a very big point about Trump election. I notice that it seems to be difficult for Americans to move to Canada due to immigration policies. Massive problem in America, Obama seems to just not care who comes into our country. No education no money no skills no problem, come on in. Immigration is the biggest and most talked-about thing in the Trump election and if he fixes that he will be a hero.
I'm a retired General Contractor and can tell you with certainty that the Mexican invasion in America has destroyed the construction industry. The construction industry was 30 to 40% of the economy in many states. Construction is at a standstill and is slower than it has been in Generations.
In the 70s when I started, a worker had to go through apprenticeship programs to become a journeyman and the pay was good. I don't care that some are dismissive about the Reagan Administration, a lot of middle-class made a lot of money. It's hard to do that anymore now. In the 80s where I am an okay worker could expect 15 to $20 an hour. In the 90s, 20 to $30 an hour, but most of the trades paid by piecework ( you were paid by how much work you got done ) and made much more than those wages. Today the same jobs pay 10 to $12 to unskilled Mexicans. Craftsman and Journeymen are very rare and wouldn't surprise me if they become extinct in the future. But we do need a lot of liberal arts majors lol. Poor kids today go to college to get a useless education and a huge bill when they're done. Hopefully they can reinvent trade schools in the future.
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Old 16-11-2016, 23:03   #215
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Well we have both had some major financial reversals over the years and we both went cruising so go figure. The caliber you have is almost identical to the 308 which is a great round, I was just kidding you a bit. No my math is good Reagan increased the deficit by 190% while Obama increased the deficit by 70%, remember I said deficit not debt.
KOM. A suggestion, if you please. Don't know where you are on the planet right now but spend as much of you can immediately ( well, do it soon right?) on a supply of 7.62 nato rounds (not the nato short used in AK's, get the long cartridge). Do it brother because there is going to be a serious shortage of the longs when you favourite man donnie tears up the north atlantic treaty organisation agreement and the rest of the world goes .305 or .310 cal.
No more nato, no more (nato) ammo.
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Why the military rounds? Answer: Because I can, they were on sale and are fun to shoot through an Vepr AK
Which Vepr AK? The 1V or the thumbhole wooden stock?

The 1V would be better for the "American invasion of Canada" to bring it back on topic
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Old 17-11-2016, 05:36   #217
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Which Vepr AK? The 1V or the thumbhole wooden stock?

The 1V would be better for the "American invasion of Canada" to bring it back on topic
I'm in Massachusetts, so the thumbhole wooden stock version was the only choice two years ago. Glad I purchased it when I did, because the Republican state attorney general banned the gun for purchase last summer.
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Udacha,
Sorry that business isn't good in Arizona. It's unbelievably good here in Michigan. I'm an HVAC contractor and we've almost doubled in size over the last 6 years and at a very high profit margin to boot. Every contractor I've talked to wishes they could hire people but they're not available. Wages have gone way up also, you can't hire anyone for less than $12 per hour, semi skilled is $18, and skilled is up to $28. Maybe the huge economic boom we have just gone through will finally make it to Arizona over the next 4 years - I hope it keeps going here.
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Yes you are right, there is a scoring system to immigrate to Canada and it's not a drop dead easy approach unless your a refugee.
Wait, Canada ENFORCES their immigration laws?!?

But, but that's racist and xenophobic, right?
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BTW: Your math is a little off. The US debt grew to 1 trillion under Reagan. Obama grew the national debt by 10 trillion. One is less than ten.

He used percentages in his post. That makes Obama one of the least debt creating presidents of all time. There was a column in Forbes mag. a few years ago that explained that, as a percentage of inherited debt Obama has spent very little.

Look at it this way: Trump can run up the debt an additional 20T and still have spent less than Obama, (as a percentage of inherited debt.)
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Why the military rounds? Answer: Because I can, they were on sale and are fun to shoot through an Vepr AK.

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And even better through an FN FAL or SLR! Both of which, contrary to popular lies, are legal in Canada, Australia, and New Zealand.

BTW WalMart is discontinuing the ZQI line so 762 is now less than $8/20. If somebody else hasn't been there first.
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He used percentages in his post. That makes Obama one of the least debt creating presidents of all time. There was a column in Forbes mag. a few years ago that explained that, as a percentage of inherited debt Obama has spent very little.

Look at it this way: Trump can run up the debt an additional 20T and still have spent less than Obama, (as a percentage of inherited debt.)
Oh now I see.... Robert was using the "New Math" taught in the state indoctrination centers where 10 trillion is less than 1 trillion.

'Makes perfect sense.
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And even better through an FN FAL or SLR! Both of which, contrary to popular lies, are legal in Canada, Australia, and New Zealand.

BTW WalMart is discontinuing the ZQI line so 762 is now less than $8/20. If somebody else hasn't been there first.
I cleaned out the local Walmart of ZQI 7.62x51 yesterday.

$7.65 per box of 20.

$7.65 is less than $20.
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[QUOTE=Udacha;2259606]There sure is a lot of liberal media talking points on this thread. I believe a lot of the statements about Trump will be found to be untrue. The mainstream medias bias is insane to say the least. I recently read that two of the women that accused Trump of groping retracted their statement and admitted they were paid.

An observation about snowbirds and Healthcare.... I live in an area that has been a huge Snowbird destination for over 50 years and it is next to impossible to get a doctor's appointment in the winter time here and the parking lots at doctors offices are packed with Canadian license plates. I'm curious how that fits in with Canadian isurance. I do know that if you go to the doctor's office and just pay cash it's really not that expensive. Obamacare has been the biggest scam on American people in generations. When my oldest daughter was born about 11 years ago ( I got a late start ) and when I was ready to take my family home I had three choices. Pay for it with insurance that would have been a bit over 12k or make payments to them that would have been just over 9k or just write him a check for $2,800. It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out, I wrote the check.

It seems most on this thread are missing a very big point about Trump election. I notice that it seems to be difficult for Americans to move to Canada due to immigration policies. Massive problem in America, Obama seems to just not care who comes into our country. No education no money no skills no problem, come on in. Immigration is the biggest and most talked-about thing in the Trump election and if he fixes that he will be a hero.
I'm a retired General Contractor and can tell you with certainty that the Mexican invasion in America has destroyed the construction industry. The construction industry was 30 to 40% of the economy in many states. Construction is at a standstill and is slower than it has been in Generations.
In the 70s when I started, a worker had to go through apprenticeship programs to become a journeyman and the pay was good. I don't care that some are dismissive about the Reagan Administration, a lot of middle-class made a lot of money. It's hard to do that anymore now. In the 80s where I am an okay worker could expect 15 to $20 an hour. In the 90s, 20 to $30 an hour, but most of the trades paid by piecework ( you were paid by how much work you got done ) and made much more than those wages. Today the same jobs pay 10 to $12 to unskilled Mexicans. Craftsman and Journeymen are very rare and wouldn't surprise me if they become extinct in the future. But we do need a lot of liberal arts majors lol. Poor kids today go to college to get a useless education and a huge bill when they're done. Hopefully they can reinvent trade schools in the future.[/QUOT

We both come from the same backgrounds in a way. I've been in the land development and house building my whole life. I've traveled extensively in the USA , even had a sister company in San Diego that we shared our business strategy with and would visit each other every 6 months or so to share all parts of our business.
I looked forward to those meetings because no matter how close were were geography and business wise we had very different views on how our business should be conducted. Needless to say we both learned a lot and I listened very careful to his opinions, you never learn much from people that agree with your point of view.
I can tell you that in our business anyways we operated in a similar fashion but there were large differences. As a business we are one of the most regulated businesses in the country with laws from virtually every level of every form of government from the City right up to the Feds. Canada does have a heavier set of regulations but Americans are similar.
After business we used to talk a little politics and on this point we both had similar opinions

As to who Trump is, it's pretty much out there, he's been recorded and photographed most of his life so he is who he is. That man must have sent a million tweets out. He likes the ladies and he loves being paid attention to. He ran the most negative campaign that I have ever been exposed to, very little content other than emotion BUT he obviously had a good understanding of his voters and won the election, so good on him and while I'm not American I do wish him all the luck as your country will need it.
Immigration is always a touchy subject for many reasons, if controlled it can be a boost to any countries economy and certainly both of our countries have received benifits from it. We are both countries that grew and prospered because of it but countries need to control it.
When Bush and gang started the Iraq war they really buggered up the middle east and the Syrian crisis was a direct result however the USA never paid the price but Europe sure did, with millions of migrants heading north. Canada even took in 60,000 Syrians this year while the USA agreed to 10,000. So in life not everything is fair, US starts a war and the rest of the world lives with the aftermath.
All that said we only wish for the best for our southern neighbours and we wish Trump every success in his new leadership role.
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He ran the most negative campaign that I have ever been exposed to, very little content other than emotion
Or maybe the MSM reported very little of his content and only reported the emotion.
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