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Old 20-12-2018, 18:51   #76
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LOL! Hey mom, you own a boat and you want to lecture about smart investments


In the investment world "The Dow dropped 464 points, or 2%, on Thursday. The index closed below 23,000 for the first time since October 2017. The Nasdaq lost 1.6% and only narrowly avoided closing in its first bear market since the Great Recession. The S&P 500 declined 1.6%. And US oil prices are in free fall, ending below $46 a barrel for the first time since August 2017."


Looks like a solid investment mom! Just a hint for the oil industry to make any money it needs to be at or above $50 a barrel. $46 isn't cutting it!
Well I guess we can't make more money with our money so we might as well go buy another boat. That's the way I see it.
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Well I guess we can't make more money with our money so we might as well go buy another boat. That's the way I see it.

For sure....That's why I own 3
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I really don’t understand the anger or envy some people seem to exhibit towards those managing to make money selling their content online. People producing content others want to read/listen-to/watch is what used to be the domain of publishing, radio/TV/film. Now the medium is the Internet — what’s the big deal?

In the past the payment models were more controlled, more defined. An author would get a contract to write a book (or to make it personal, a magazine article). Publisher or producer would pay the creator, and then make profit selling this creation to consumers.

Today the market has so devalued creation that middle-men can’t/won’t pay creators for their work. So creators have found ways to bypass these folk and go directly to ‘consumers of content.’ They offer their wares, and people can choose to pay, or not.

This is not begging. This is not charity work. In fact, those who are successful in this business are people who are highly skilled and talented. It takes a tremendous amount of effort and resources to produce quality content. It’s no different than those who sell their skills and products as business owners, nurses or charter captains.

These folks are producing a product that some people are willing to pay for. The payment mechanisms have changed, but the basic formula remains the same. They are selling product for money.
Some people lack the intelligence to understand that the world is a changing place, and still live in the past.
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Digital cam £1.600

GoPro £360

4k Camera £900

Dead cat and Micro £500

Gimbal £460

Laptop Editing £1500 +-

Bags and gear £500+
Spare Batteries £500+
USB sticks £500+
Hard Drives £800+
Lenses etc lol some cost more then a house.

Drone?? £1k plus spares £1.5k + case



just some basics..



The guy from Keep Turning Left used to work for the BBC he lost his revenue with the demise of the CD

His content is amazing and quirky.



It seems that some get sore at others just because they make the money they can't





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I really don’t understand the anger or envy some people seem to exhibit towards those managing to make money selling their content online. People producing content others want to read/listen-to/watch is what used to be the domain of publishing, radio/TV/film. Now the medium is the Internet — what’s the big deal?

In the past the payment models were more controlled, more defined. An author would get a contract to write a book (or to make it personal, a magazine article). Publisher or producer would pay the creator, and then make profit selling this creation to consumers.

Today the market has so devalued creation that middle-men can’t/won’t pay creators for their work. So creators have found ways to bypass these folk and go directly to ‘consumers of content.’ They offer their wares, and people can choose to pay, or not.

This is not begging. This is not charity work. In fact, those who are successful in this business are people who are highly skilled and talented. It takes a tremendous amount of effort and resources to produce quality content. It’s no different than those who sell their skills and products as business owners, nurses or charter captains.

These folks are producing a product that some people are willing to pay for. The payment mechanisms have changed, but the basic formula remains the same. They are selling product for money.
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Old 20-12-2018, 19:04   #80
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Columbus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isabella_I_of_Castile
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Hemisphere
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_literacy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purchasing_power_parity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_world_product

The "whole hog" routine lack of logic offered by some here makes me seriously wonder how they afforded a dinghy, no less a yacht, no less maintaining the wherewithal to pontificate how others use their money. The only reasonable conclusion I can draw is:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

coupled with ill-gotten gains.

Makes me feel better about my recalcitrant plantar wart. Keep it up!
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Cool vloggers in no particular order:



Parlay Revival - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYr...lKodK2Onpt6KgA

Sailing Starship - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfn...KvM--19OG0I-CQ
Tula's Endless Summer - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDm...U1epfKM_ZiUJZA

Cruising Off Duty - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-Q..._-zWCJ6rC2Xn1Q
RAN Sailing - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLY...wUKhouIkHoqzMw
Sailing Nahoa - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaJ...BWMNbc8G-2SIwA
SV Happy Together - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChC...Q-mdO42bCLFSwA (they don't have a patreon account)
Sailing Zatara - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNY...iRRHo_v5Nmrfow (they don't have a patreon account either and funny)
Distant Shores - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-R...xpXx96KsNVCrDw (the God mother and father of the sailing video making)
Gone with the Wynns - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBo...5HI5CXFsCxOhmA
Sailing Magic Carpet - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCF4...uOo4pkOgn91Tdg (this is a cute couple)
The Daley Adventure - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2n...yaWMkBYpnNN1Rg
Two Afloat Sailing - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs3...eLq1ebfr0gBUhg (they're from San Diego so they must be cool)
Wiley Sharp - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCru...ldE-Z1U40fGdqA


These all have their own entertainment value.
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Old 20-12-2018, 19:08   #82
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Here, I will make it easy for you. The DIFFERENCE is as follows:

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/donate
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/beg
Busted! Did you not think I would look it up?
And a repeat offender! Good work calling it out, thank you.

What can you say, haters gonna hate. Nothing we can do about it.
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Old 20-12-2018, 19:10   #83
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lol we have the same tastes.


I know the distant shores couple. we've enjoyed some nice boat talk for quite some hours on occasion. They are indeed the grandparents of the all thing.





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Cool vloggers in no particular order:



Parlay Revival - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYr...lKodK2Onpt6KgA

Sailing Starship - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfn...KvM--19OG0I-CQ
Tula's Endless Summer - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDm...U1epfKM_ZiUJZA

Cruising Off Duty - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-Q..._-zWCJ6rC2Xn1Q
RAN Sailing - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLY...wUKhouIkHoqzMw
Sailing Nahoa - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaJ...BWMNbc8G-2SIwA
SV Happy Together - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChC...Q-mdO42bCLFSwA (they don't have a patreon account)
Sailing Zatara - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNY...iRRHo_v5Nmrfow (they don't have a patreon account either and funny)
Distant Shores - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-R...xpXx96KsNVCrDw (the God mother and father of the sailing video making)
Gone with the Wynns - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBo...5HI5CXFsCxOhmA
Sailing Magic Carpet - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCF4...uOo4pkOgn91Tdg (this is a cute couple)
The Daley Adventure - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2n...yaWMkBYpnNN1Rg
Two Afloat Sailing - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs3...eLq1ebfr0gBUhg (they're from San Diego so they must be cool)
Wiley Sharp - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCru...ldE-Z1U40fGdqA


These all have their own entertainment value.
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Old 20-12-2018, 19:12   #84
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lol I just noticed that I'm so bad .. I don't make my own list
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Its funny how the people that bitch about the people sailing and making videos and making money just thinks its easy. Hahhahaha Why can't they do it because they don't know how. Its easy to sit on their keyboards.
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lol I just noticed that I'm so bad .. I don't make my own list

Too funny! Check out Sailing Magic Carpet. These kids took a destroyed monohull and brought it back to life. The thing was dropped 20 feet to the cement. They did 90% of the work themselves while working full time. They just started making videos but are naturals.
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Its funny how the people that bitch about the people sailing and making videos and making money just thinks its easy. Hahhahaha Why can't they do it because they don't know how. Its easy to sit on their keyboards.

It's always the same. Haters will be haters.
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Too funny! Check out Sailing Magic Carpet. These kids took a destroyed monohull and brought it back to life. The thing was dropped 20 feet to the cement. They did 90% of the work themselves while working full time. They just started making videos but are naturals.

I've been watching them since they started as with RAN and Delos, Sailing UMA and Matt from Elements of life.





rather watch those then anything on tv this days.
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As a retired Gen-Xer, I wish I had the opportunity to have YT and blogs when I was young so I could make money making movies (doing fun stuff) instead of putting my nose to the grind stone for 30 years. When I think about it, I think those young people in the videos are utilizing a medium of opportunity very wisely.
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As a retired Gen-Xer, I wish I had the opportunity to have YT and blogs when I was young so I could make money making movies (doing fun stuff) instead of putting my nose to the grind stone for 30 years. When I think about it, I think those young people in the videos are utilizing a medium of opportunity very wisely.








It just occured to me this thread is perfect!



Go watch MY videos https://youtu.be/Vgi-afySUog


just dont get scared and breath when you see the boat on episode 1
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