Why do people pay for somebody else's fun?

[Group9]

We pay for Netflix, too. It’s just what we do. If someone consistently entertains me, I will consider renunerating them for that. That happens in a variety of ways.

If we desperately needed that $10 or $20, to live, to eat, or to cruise, then we certainly wouldn’t. So I understand both points of view.

[SVTwilight]

Originally Posted by PortClydeMe

Uh oh!!! Hahahaha ...

Here we go again. Everyone here knows my opinions on this matter. Thus, what I’ll find interesting is ‘how many pages’ this thread sails until the Mod-sters shut it down.

Kind of like the fun ‘guns at sea’ threads.

I will add this one opinion. It appears by watching that video that the ‘permanent sea vacation’ crowd now has a set protocol.

Dude: “Honey! Check it out! People will pay for us to retire!”
Honey: “Really? What do we need to do?”
Dude: “First, color your hair blonde, and hopefully start playing an acoustic guitar. Next, we’ll buy the same French monohull that the Vagas used. I’ll then crunch my abs a bit, and start learning how to spear fish. Finally, we set up a PAYME account, get a GoPro cam, and hit the waves. That’s it! People will give us their money, forever!”
Honey: “Wow! Really? Do we need to know anything about how to sail a boat?”
Dude: “No, not really. We just need to run around on tropical atolls drinking beer ... me smiling, and you sometimes going topless.”
Honey: “Cool! Let’s do it! That’s better than working. Yay!”

I laughed until it hurt! So spot on!

[ShellBack89]

Originally Posted by john61ct

not another one please

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ng-181837.html

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...te-208089.html

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...rs-202767.html

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...rs-183130.html

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...er-206486.html

What John Said.......
The VLOGS I watch have never asked for money to make repairs or upgrades to their boat. Watching this couple sit there begging was pathetic. They almost gave the impression of "If you don't donate to paypal we won't be able to make videos for you". Oh NO! How will I go on? said no one!

[Kenomac]

Originally Posted by Group9

We pay for Netflix, too. It’s just what we do. If someone consistently entertains me, I will consider renunerating them for that. That happens in a variety of ways.

If we desperately needed that $10 or $20, to live, to eat, or to cruise, then we certainly wouldn’t. So I understand both points of view.

The difference being, that Netflix doesn't lay some guilt trip on you, then expect you to help pay for their delivery system when it crashes.

I recently received an email from a cruising couple I met who live on a $600k yacht asking me and their "patreons" to help out because they encountered some unexpected medical related travel expenses. They don't ask for money directly, but first tend to lay on the sympathy/guilt trip rather thick, then complain that they're not making enough money via their sailing blogs and videos... then of course they thank all the generous contributors who've sent them "donations" in their time of need.

Here's the email received yesterday:

Hi Ken,

"I hope this email finds you well?! [Deleted], [Deleted] and I are now in London. Tomorrow I am visiting a heart specialist with the expectation of having a procedure done within the next 10 days to fix my achey little heart. I'm feeling better every day - just tired and my heart actually feels like someone is holding it (but not in a bad way). I think that's to be expected.

We've been overwhelmed with all the positive comments, prayers and support that have been sent our way. Thank you so very, very much. If you've sent an email or FB message, I still haven't gotten to them but I will

And for those that have sent donations, we really, really, really appreciate your support. The cost of this 'experience' has been less than the cost of annual health insurance ($8,000) but it hasn't been insignificant. It's the flights that cost the most - 75%. Thank you so very much.

Anyway, no video this week but I did write an article. Find out more below.

And my family and I wish you a very happy holidays and an exceptional New Year. Let's make 2019 a really awesome year."


Once again.... These folks are roaming around the Caribbean 24/7/365 on a $600k yacht.

[LEOCAT66]

Originally Posted by SVTwilight

I laughed until it hurt! So spot on!

We cruised for around two years on our own dime, and did so until the funds were gone. We then returned home for a while to save up a kitty once again. We have a very modest boat, by todays standards, which we maintain from our own resources. We would not think of asking for free funds or services from anyone. It is about character to us.

Occasionally I go to the grocery, and come across that person in the checkout line with overflowing high quality expensive items. Then out come the food stamps and they proceed out the door with their highly valuable bounty partially on our dime. In the lot they load the contents into their fairly new Mercedes, etc. parked in a handicapped spot, without a tag or proper plate and drive right past my 06 Ford, which is nearly paid for.

These people remind me of those seemingly entitled hand out cruisers. If you cannot afford it stay home and work until you can. I understand the Instant Gratification scenario, currently infecting our country, but when I can afford a newer car, on my own, I will buy one, and maybe go out cruising too for another short while, until then I will make do. It also makes the cruising sweeter.

[pcmm]

Originally Posted by Metal Boat

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCC7...oFn5eMyfTnaA8w






I find this guy well worth a watch, he has lots of good survival info and practical information worth watching, already learnt some stuff


These two trust fund babies however, are a disaster waiting to happen


https://www.youtube.com/user/WickedSaltySailors/videos

What about working their asses off in restaurants, etc. makes them "trust fund babies"? Their first boat was a 30ft pearson that took them to the bahamas, they sold that, saved up for a new boat (sank) and then used the insurance payout to get a Catalina 30.

Am I missing something??

[Hoosierdoc]

I get tens of thousands of dollars confiscated to support people making bad decisions every year and get zero thanks.

If I want to donate some $$ to someone who entertains me on their journey, who cares? Don’f Like, don’t donate. Easy enough.

[thinwater]

Originally Posted by Kenomac

Please send money to THEIR paypal account so YOU can pay for THEIR broken rudder???? The couple in the video are begging on TV for others to pay for their rudder money so THEY can continue living YOUR dream.

Seriously.... things are really messed up in todays youtubing society.

And people have long paid $400 to watch paid athletes perform ritual combat for 3 hours in the NFL. Not me, but nearly one million do every weekend.


Meanwhile we spend real money to work on a boat and get wet. It's easier to watch You Tube.



I don't try to figure people out. I'm sure they can't figure me out.

[Group9]

Originally Posted by Kenomac

The difference being, that Netflix doesn't lay some guilt trip on you, then expect you to help pay for their delivery system when it crashes.

I recently received an email from a cruising couple I met who live on a $600k yacht asking me and their "patreons" to help out because they encountered some unexpected medical related travel expenses. They don't ask for money directly, but first tend to lay on the sympathy/guilt trip rather thick, then complain that they're not making enough money via their sailing blogs and videos... then of course they thank all the generous contributors who've sent them "donations" in their time of need.

Here's the email received yesterday:

Hi Ken,

"I hope this email finds you well?! [Deleted], [Deleted] and I are now in London. Tomorrow I am visiting a heart specialist with the expectation of having a procedure done within the next 10 days to fix my achey little heart. I'm feeling better every day - just tired and my heart actually feels like someone is holding it (but not in a bad way). I think that's to be expected.

We've been overwhelmed with all the positive comments, prayers and support that have been sent our way. Thank you so very, very much. If you've sent an email or FB message, I still haven't gotten to them but I will

And for those that have sent donations, we really, really, really appreciate your support. The cost of this 'experience' has been less than the cost of annual health insurance ($8,000) but it hasn't been insignificant. It's the flights that cost the most - 75%. Thank you so very much.

Anyway, no video this week but I did write an article. Find out more below.

And my family and I wish you a very happy holidays and an exceptional New Year. Let's make 2019 a really awesome year."


Once again.... These folks are roaming around the Caribbean 24/7/365 on a $600k yacht.

Maybe, I am guilty of trying to oversimplify things here, but why not just ignore video makers whom you despise?

[Kenomac]

Originally Posted by Group9

Maybe, I am guilty of trying to oversimplify things here, but why not just ignore video makers whom you despise?

I actually do ignore them, and I confess there are a couple of videos like Delos and Lavagabond I enjoy watching occasionally. But I thought the email that got dumped into my mailbox yesterday, brought this entire paymeforhavingfun industry to a new low.

[tarian]

Originally Posted by PortClydeMe

Uh oh!!! Hahahaha ...

Here we go again. Everyone here knows my opinions on this matter. Thus, what I’ll find interesting is ‘how many pages’ this thread sails until the Mod-sters shut it down.

Kind of like the fun ‘guns at sea’ threads.

I will add this one opinion. It appears by watching that video that the ‘permanent sea vacation’ crowd now has a set protocol.

Dude: “Honey! Check it out! People will pay for us to retire!”
Honey: “Really? What do we need to do?”
Dude: “First, color your hair blonde, and hopefully start playing an acoustic guitar. Next, we’ll buy the same French monohull that the Vagas used. I’ll then crunch my abs a bit, and start learning how to spear fish. Finally, we set up a PAYME account, get a GoPro cam, and hit the waves. That’s it! People will give us their money, forever!”
Honey: “Wow! Really? Do we need to know anything about how to sail a boat?”
Dude: “No, not really. We just need to run around on tropical atolls drinking beer ... me smiling, and you sometimes going topless.”
Honey: “Cool! Let’s do it! That’s better than working. Yay!”

It pains me to admit it but I love this post

[tarian]

Originally Posted by Kenomac

The difference being, that Netflix doesn't lay some guilt trip on you, then expect you to help pay for their delivery system when it crashes.

I recently received an email from a cruising couple I met who live on a $600k yacht asking me and their "patreons" to help out because they encountered some unexpected medical related travel expenses. They don't ask for money directly, but first tend to lay on the sympathy/guilt trip rather thick, then complain that they're not making enough money via their sailing blogs and videos... then of course they thank all the generous contributors who've sent them "donations" in their time of need.

Here's the email received yesterday:

Hi Ken,

"I hope this email finds you well?! [Deleted], [Deleted] and I are now in London. Tomorrow I am visiting a heart specialist with the expectation of having a procedure done within the next 10 days to fix my achey little heart. I'm feeling better every day - just tired and my heart actually feels like someone is holding it (but not in a bad way). I think that's to be expected.

We've been overwhelmed with all the positive comments, prayers and support that have been sent our way. Thank you so very, very much. If you've sent an email or FB message, I still haven't gotten to them but I will

And for those that have sent donations, we really, really, really appreciate your support. The cost of this 'experience' has been less than the cost of annual health insurance ($8,000) but it hasn't been insignificant. It's the flights that cost the most - 75%. Thank you so very much.

Anyway, no video this week but I did write an article. Find out more below.

And my family and I wish you a very happy holidays and an exceptional New Year. Let's make 2019 a really awesome year."


Once again.... These folks are roaming around the Caribbean 24/7/365 on a $600k yacht.

These people also sold their business fr a grand sum ,and the said female uses the patreon like a Amazon, and walmart for trying to flog their goods , I have n issues with it as I watched a few at the beginning of their journey , and then started t get more spam from them than I got for viagra, then I decided to stop.

[Valmika]

I don't know what the big deal is. BTW it is "begging" not bagging unless there is something I don't know.


I am a patreon for four vlogs two are informative , Boatworks today, Sailing Emerald Steel, and two are for fun. White spot pirates and sailing Uma. I usually switch to a new "poorer" channel when someone starts getting over a $1000 per video. I figure it is a way to keep things going. If they are idiots (yes they are out there) I don't give anything. If they are legitimately trying to learn and do things right. I like to encourage them. (never more than a couple of dollars though) It cost me about the same as a premium channel on direct TV and is much more tailored to my viewing enjoyment.

[Valmika]

Originally Posted by Kenomac

I actually do ignore them, and I confess there are a couple of videos like Delos and Lavagabond I enjoy watching occasionally. But I thought the email that got dumped into my mailbox yesterday, brought this entire paymeforhavingfun industry to a new low.

Hey Kenomac, Classy of you not to name the culprit but you really have my curiosity up. I don't supposed you would PM the name? Id really like to look them up. (bored today)


Thanks

[tarian]

Originally Posted by Valmika

I don't know what the big deal is. BTW it is "begging" not bagging unless there is something I don't know.


I am a patreon for four vlogs two are informative , Boatworks today, Sailing Emerald Steel, and two are for fun. White spot pirates and sailing Uma. I usually switch to a new "poorer" channel when someone starts getting over a $1000 per video. I figure it is a way to keep things going. If they are idiots (yes they are out there) I don't give anything. If they are legitimately trying to learn and do things right. I like to encourage them. (never more than a couple of dollars though) It cost me about the same as a premium channel on direct TV and is much more tailored to my viewing enjoyment.

It does not show you in a good light to criticizes spelling we all make small mistakes when typing and really does it matter.

No big deal your money your viewing pleasure, I think it is the way that some of the vloggers try and manipulate shots and always have their girlfriend in a bikini shot on their title. know this could be for good advertisement, but what then are you trying to sell, I always though when first watching these that it was sporadic and unedited , yes clipped together , but then I see outtakes , get the camera in position and redoing talking shots as if it were a movie , this take out the realism that I was looking for, and to watch certain people getting drunk and telling us all how it is , became boring, but for some this is the level of their interest and that is why we have choices.