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Old 27-09-2024, 17:11   #31
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If I search for a new registration, obviously I still have my plastic tub. With a decent 16'' Raymarine MFD ... and AIS receiver.
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Old 22-10-2024, 08:39   #32
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I am having the same issue. Boat is in South Pacific but I need to register in Poland as it is very difficult to do in Canada where I live. There are so many agents on the web - can anyone recommend a reputable one? Thank you very much!
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I am having the same issue. Boat is in South Pacific but I need to register in Poland as it is very difficult to do in Canada where I live. There are so many agents on the web - can anyone recommend a reputable one? Thank you very much!
See my previous post #22 in this thread. At time when i researched for my boat (aprox year ago) that was cheapest option. They are also answering quite fast on questions via Whatsapp.
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See my previous post #22 in this thread. At time when i researched for my boat (aprox year ago) that was cheapest option. They are also answering quite fast on questions via Whatsapp.

How can these agent proof that the registration is not fake ?


And how comes that non-EU entities are allowed to register in Poland - since this would mean "freedom of movement" for the boat ... ?
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How can these agent proof that the registration is not fake ?

And how comes that non-EU entities are allowed to register in Poland - since this would mean "freedom of movement" for the boat ... ?
- You will get credit card sized registration and can check your boats entry in state registry. https://portal.reja24.gov.pl/wademek...truj%C4%85cego.

- I guess it's just Polands country rule to attract more boat registrations.
- For me boat registration was super easy but I'm EU citizen. So just ask that agent whats needed in your case.
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How can these agent proof that the registration is not fake ?


And how comes that non-EU entities are allowed to register in Poland - since this would mean "freedom of movement" for the boat ... ?
Both on the provisional registration, as well as the actual Certificate of Registry, you will find a QR-code. That should confirm the registration number.

JANIS also refers you to a webpage where physical characteristics of the actual plastic card be found.

Poland is not the only EU flag state that accepts all nationalities. In Italy, for example, every nationality can register their vessel as well. Poland is just efficiently organised and has a competitive fee structure.
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Bluewater Registration wrote to me that Poland flag is "grey listed... the flag will often be used for money laundering or stolen boats so the coast guard will often come to your boat to see all the papers and how you payed it."

“The Maritime Analysis and Operations Centre — Narcotics (MAOC-N), a joint US, UK and European operations centre for narcotics traffic based in Lisbon and focusing mainly on smaller vessels, has registered an increase in Polish-flagged pleasure craft suspected of carrying drugs since 2021.

While MAOC-N was monitoring 12 Polish-flagged vessels potentially linked to trafficking in 2021, that number rose to 31 in 2022 and 47 last year. Boats appear on the organisation’s radar because of intelligence tip-offs, ongoing investigations and suspicious vessel or crew movements.”

The Financial Times further notes that drug traffickers are taking advantage of a legal loophole that prevents law enforcement members from boarding Polish-flagged vessels at sea. The article states that the number of new boat registrations has rocketed from about 2,000 in Poland’s system in 2020, to almost 77,000 currently.

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Bluewater Registration wrote to me that Poland flag is "grey listed... the flag will often be used for money laundering or stolen boats so the coast guard will often come to your boat to see all the papers and how you payed it."

“The Maritime Analysis and Operations Centre — Narcotics (MAOC-N), a joint US, UK and European operations centre for narcotics traffic based in Lisbon and focusing mainly on smaller vessels, has registered an increase in Polish-flagged pleasure craft suspected of carrying drugs since 2021.

While MAOC-N was monitoring 12 Polish-flagged vessels potentially linked to trafficking in 2021, that number rose to 31 in 2022 and 47 last year. Boats appear on the organisation’s radar because of intelligence tip-offs, ongoing investigations and suspicious vessel or crew movements.”

The Financial Times further notes that drug traffickers are taking advantage of a legal loophole that prevents law enforcement members from boarding Polish-flagged vessels at sea. The article states that the number of new boat registrations has rocketed from about 2,000 in Poland’s system in 2020, to almost 77,000 currently.

https://www.maritimedata.ai/post/the...s-the-atlantic

Scare mongerer .... 77'000 new registrations and handful involved in drug trafficking.


Dude ... get a break.
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Poland’s interior minister has said regulations governing maritime vessels are “too unclear,” following revelations that drug traffickers are using Polish-flagged boats to transport drugs across the Atlantic.
The warning comes after a Financial Times report revealed that Polish vessels under 24 meters have become popular with smugglers working the trans-Atlantic trade owing to lax regulations on boat registration and those governing who can board vessels at sea.
According to the Maritime Analysis and Operations Centre - Narcotics (MAOC-N), an initiative of eight EU Member States (Belgium, France, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Spain, the Netherlands and Portugal) and the United Kingdom, co-financed by the European Union's Internal Security Fund, Poland has failed to adapt its regulations to international law to allow other countries to board Polish-flagged vessels at sea.
This means Polish boats have “de facto immunity” from arrest, according to Julien Garsany, Brussels’ UN representative of the UN Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC).
“When other countries see a vessel flying the Polish flag and [it’s] suspected to be involved in drug trafficking, they basically have no one to authorize them to board it,” Garsany said.

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Since Warsaw introduced a new registration system in 2020, the number of registered boats has increased from 2,000 to almost 77,000.
“It’s cheap, it’s superfast and it doesn’t require much information. So obviously the criminals will try to register on that. It’s a fantastic business,” an MAOC-N analyst told the Financial Times.
The matter is serious because the MAOC-N is observing a huge increase in cocaine smuggling from South America to West Africa.
Since 2021, the organization has reported the seizure of 19 small Polish vessels carrying a total of 18 tons of cannabis, 13.5 tons of cocaine and 56 kg of MDMA (ecstasy). The boats were stopped off the coast of Portugal, Brazil, Cape Verde and Guinea-Bissau.

Polish response

In response to the revelations made in the Financial Times article, Tomasz Siemoniak, the Polish interior minister, said the use of Polish boats results “from unclear, apparently too liberal regulations on floating objects. “We need to look into this and make changes quickly,” he said. Poland's Health Ministry said that Warsaw aims to enable inspections of Polish-flagged vessels by the end of the year. “Competent authorities in Poland are working on legislative changes… which will allow them [the police] to issue such permits,” the ministry told the Financial Times.

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