Sending a zodiac to port in foreign countries.

[away again]

Originally Posted by ScienceSailor

Let's assume I do everything by the book up to the point where I am about to enter the 24nm line, at which point I leave the boat behind with a skipper on board.

I then board a zodiac and comply by ALL rules and regulation of the country I'm about to enter.

Please ooh please make a video of the 24nm open ocean passage in a zodiac and post it for us to see.
One way should be sufficient entertainment but the return journey…priceless.

[Orin]

Two big boats is better if you have multiple people with the same goals I think.

Leaving the dinghy out to see and taking the big boat in would cause less suspicion probably. Be too risky for me so maybe a sea anchor and a radio or some redundant means to locate the dink on your way back out.

[paul2884]

Originally Posted by leecea

Does that mean your vessel is not registered to any country and not flying any flag?

and for that matter many countries wont be happy for you to be 24miles off shore in a RCD Cat C "rubber dinghy" they may well prevent you leaving for your own safety!

[Rod Headlee]

Originally Posted by ScienceSailor

Let's assume I do everything by the book up to the point where I am about to enter the 24nm line, at which point I leave the boat behind with a skipper on board.

I then board a zodiac and comply by ALL rules and regulation of the country I'm about to enter. Passport with valid visa (when required), Port Clearance certificate, etc.

Would i need to provide the following :

Boat Registration certificate
Boat insurance policy
“Free Pratique”
Ship’s stamp (in some countries)
MMSI number, and proof of AIS (where required)

... For the boat or for the zodiac? Either or both? If both, what is the exact legal requirement for forming a virtual 'tether' between the boat and the zodiac? Is it about MY legal status as a person and owner of the ship? What if i sent someone else instead of me? (say, on a supply run)

The question IS relevant in the context of small atolls that have complex, if not nearly infinite sets of rules and regulations because they are not interdependent but obey usually laws descending from old colonial rules.

Thank you.

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[Rod Headlee]

Originally Posted by ScienceSailor

Let's assume I do everything by the book up to the point where I am about to enter the 24nm line, at which point I leave the boat behind with a skipper on board.

I then board a zodiac and comply by ALL rules and regulation of the country I'm about to enter. Passport with valid visa (when required), Port Clearance certificate, etc.

Would i need to provide the following :

Boat Registration certificate
Boat insurance policy
“Free Pratique”
Ship’s stamp (in some countries)
MMSI number, and proof of AIS (where required)

... For the boat or for the zodiac? Either or both? If both, what is the exact legal requirement for forming a virtual 'tether' between the boat and the zodiac? Is it about MY legal status as a person and owner of the ship? What if i sent someone else instead of me? (say, on a supply run)

The question IS relevant in the context of small atolls that have complex, if not nearly infinite sets of rules and regulations because they are not interdependent but obey usually laws descending from old colonial rules.

Thank you.

From memory; (it's been a long time since I have done this)
Passport
clearance stamp from last port of call
crew list and Zarpe (exit clearance from last port of call for ship and crew)
Ships documentation
insurance if staying in marina
proof of funds to leave (French Polynesia)
Bill of sale (Costa Rica) copy not acceptable

You will visit in order:
Port Captain
Customs
Immigration
Agriculture
Some ports require a visit from a doctor

I have never been asked for AIS or MMSI numbers except Panama canal

[wingssail]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Only place I have been required to cook food was the Panama Canal.. and they got Spag Bol not bacon.. the 4 linesmen who were required to assist in the transit from E to W.. breakfast was fruit and cereals with soup and sandwiches for lunch.

Certain oceanic countries forbid the entry of raw meat, but allowed it if cooked. Rather than confiscate the raw neat (even frozen) they allowed us to cook it in their presence.

[R Hutcheson]

Certainly an interesting idea. I have no idea what would happen. After you execute you plan, please update us with the results. It's bound to be interesting reading.

[Bill Seal]

there are several companies which do sea doo adventures to Catalina island (about 25 miles) so it's not an impossible idea.

[wholybee]

There is a guy kayaking (something between a kayak and a rowboat) across the Pacific right now. He left the Galapagos about a week ago. He seems to mostly be winging it. I don't think the boat is large enough to get documentation on. I doubt he has insurance. I figure that mostly when he shows up unannounced authorities are just bewildered that he made it and let some formalities slide, give him some food, and set him back on his way.

Someone donated some solar and a starlink to him, and he posts to Facebook daily.

https://www.facebook.com/Aaroncarotta

[Kastaway]

What happens if you have to get the zodiac to cat 1 to be allowed to leave ?

[ScienceSailor]

Originally Posted by Bill Seal

there are several companies which do sea doo adventures to Catalina island (about 25 miles) so it's not an impossible idea.

This exactly.