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04-01-2010, 15:09
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National Versions of ColRegs ?
While the International Regulations for Preventing Collisions are Sea are international in nature, some countries have their own versions. Canada has Canadian modifications; The United States has Inland Rules.
How many countries have modified ColRegs to meet their own needs? I would be interested in links, in possible, to such instances. My Googling skills are not getting me very far.
Other might be interested as well, especially those cruising other countries.
Thanks
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04-01-2010, 15:21
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There are quite a few "add ons" here and there, which are usually Port Authority initiated. An example on The Rhine in Germany, is a flashing white light, which means "I am passing wrong side" or something of that nature (Eg. Passing Green to Green).
I have not come across direct alterations to IRPCS though. Just additional stuff. (Or racing types  ).
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04-01-2010, 15:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MoonlightShadow
There are quite a few "add ons" here and there, which are usually Port Authority initiated. An example on The Rhine in Germany, is a flashing white light, which means "I am passing wrong side" or something of that nature (Eg. Passing Green to Green).
I have not come across direct alterations to IRPCS though. Just additional stuff. (Or racing types  ).
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I have seen Harbour Regulations. There are amendments to IRPCS for example:
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RULE 28
Vessels Constrained by their Draught — International
(a) A vessel constrained by her draught may, in addition to the
lights prescribed for power-driven vessels in Rule 23, exhibit
where they can best be seen three all-round red lights in a vertical
line, or a cylinder.
Vessels Constrained by their Draught — Canadian Modification
(b) Notwithstanding paragraph (a), in the Canadian waters of a
roadstead, harbour, river, lake or inland waterway, no vessel
shall exhibit three all-round red lights in a vertical line or a cylinder.
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Shapes and lights for constrained by draft are not permitted in Canadian waters.
US Inland Rules has a similar statement.
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04-01-2010, 15:42
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Wow. Now that really is interesting,Jack. Are there many like that? And are you aware of the reasons why?
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04-01-2010, 15:50
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Here is a link to Canadian ColRegs. http://laws.justice.gc.ca/PDF/Regula....,_c._1416.pdf
Many mirror some of the Inland Rules, rule 25(e), inverted cones, and rule 30(a), anchor balls are examples.
Also the Canadian modifications apply in all Canadian waters within the 12 mile limit, while Inland rules apply within demarcation lines. This might get confusing going from Washington to BC. Washington is under International ColRegs, in BC the Canadian modifications are in effect.
I am not sure why.
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04-01-2010, 16:06
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As if life were not complicated enough already!
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25-05-2010, 15:31
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There are the CEVNI rules for European inland waterways: http://www.unece.org/trans/doc/final...nt_pages_E.pdf
I think the Canmod and US Inland rules might have been established before the International conventions that established the IRPCS, and therefore retained to avoid confusing the oldtimer mariners.
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25-05-2010, 15:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lodesman
I think the Canmod and US Inland rules might have been established before the International conventions that established the IRPCS, and therefore retained to avoid confusing the oldtimer mariners.
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Thanks for that - it is a distinct possibility.
Jack
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25-05-2010, 18:22
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Quote:
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As if life were not complicated enough already!
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Have you tried driving a car in foreign countries? And I'm not even considering the ones that drive on the wrong side. As an example, in Germany you can't drive on the leftmost lane of a highway, it's only for passing. Unless you are passing everybody
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25-05-2010, 20:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dpons
Have you tried driving a car in foreign countries?
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Don't need to go to a foreign country - traffic laws vary widely between provinces and states (at least in Canada and the US).
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25-05-2010, 20:43
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New Zealand's - http://www.maritimenz.govt.nz/Rules/...itime-rule.pdf
Other than the obvious numbering difference, you have to look much closer for the differences to IRPCS.
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