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Old 09-01-2020, 11:26   #1
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If You're Thinking of Selling

Sooner or later your gonna sell your boat. If the dinghy is included in the sale, for the love of God and Country, have the dinghy paperwork ready. That means title in hand. If you don't have the title, get it. Yes, you may have to jump through some hoops, but it's far better to do it now then to jump through those hoops at closing and hold up that process on your big boat because the dink paperwork is not in order. I can't tell you how many closings have been delayed because of this one little detail.

If all you have is a Bill of Sale from when you purchased the dink, then the BOS has to be notarized. If it's not notarized and you can't locate the old owner, then depending on what state you're trying to register the dink in, it can be a real PITA to get the dink registered. And no, you can't use the excuse it's a "Tender To" and not register. So, save yourself a headache and have the paperwork ready.

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Old 09-01-2020, 11:31   #2
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Hi Sid,
I think that might be an American thing.
Previous purchases, tender was simply part of the inventory
Never needed individual titles for tenders
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Old 09-01-2020, 13:13   #3
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Hi Sid,
I think that might be an American thing.
Previous purchases, tender was simply part of the inventory
Never needed individual titles for tenders

Yep, your probably right about that. It boggles my mind at times at how complicated it can get to do something as simple as register a rubber boat...
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Old 09-01-2020, 14:01   #4
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Re: If You're Thinking of Selling

Seems to me that if the paperwork on the dink isn't ready, don't make it part of the deal.

Or make it a contingency sort of thing for $x.

Don't quash or delay an actual boat deal over it.
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Old 09-01-2020, 14:02   #5
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This is not just an American concept, it is a concept unique to each US State. Not every state titles vessels. The title would only be necessary if you happen to live in a state that titles boats. More importantly, it would only be necessary to register the vessel in a State that requires a title.

Unfortunately, the OP is taking regional specific advise and attempting to generalize to the world.
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This is not just an American concept, it is a concept unique to each US State. Not every state titles vessels. The title would only be necessary if you happen to live in a state that titles boats. More importantly, it would only be necessary to register the vessel in a State that requires a title.

Unfortunately, the OP is taking regional specific advise and attempting to generalize to the world.

I haven't checked every state, but pretty sure each one requires a vessel with a motor to be registered/titled. Some states even require you register the motor separately from the dinghy. The exception would be a vessel that meets USCG requirements for documentation and is documented. A dinghy, as a matter of size, doesn't meet those requirements.
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Old 10-01-2020, 10:43   #7
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Re: If You're Thinking of Selling

Just sold a sailboat with a dinghy and motor and was lucky enough have the dinghy bill of sale and clear title from the sate of California in my file cabinet, which I passed on to the broker. Made the sale easy in 4.5 days for offer acceptance , sea trial, survey and US Coat Guard documentation.
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In Florida, Non-motor powered vessels less than 16 feet in length do not require state registration or title. A simple Bill of Sale is all that is needed. But put an outboard motor on it, and WAM! then you have to register and title it.
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I haven't checked every state, but pretty sure each one requires a vessel with a motor to be registered/titled. Some states even require you register the motor separately from the dinghy. The exception would be a vessel that meets USCG requirements for documentation and is documented. A dinghy, as a matter of size, doesn't meet those requirements.
Not true in Washington state. A small dinghy does not require registration, powered or not unless you are visiting a national park. Don't know why the rules are written that way, maybe a federal requirement. IIRC No registration required in Caribbean countries. My 13 Y.O. rollup dink has never been registered nor was it's predecessor for 10 years before that. Been to many countries with it and never was questioned.
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Yup, I learned that the hard way on my previous boat, went through hell getting the dink registered. For the current boat, I made sure all the paperwork was in hand at closing.
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Hi Sid,
I think that might be an American thing.
Previous purchases, tender was simply part of the inventory
Never needed individual titles for tenders
I'm American, and never ever had a dink titled.
There all 6 ft or less, no gas engines.
Does that make me a criminal? NO
Washington State https://www.dol.wa.gov/vehicleregist...isterboat.html

Ill pay the fine, and skip the paperwork.
If the Boat Can't sell because of the Dink?
It doesn't come with a dink then.

Or, title it yourself there are processes for that
Shouldn't ever be a PITA.
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Seems a reasonable request considering some dinks can be worth 5, 10 maybe even 15 Grand.
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Not true in Washington state. A small dinghy does not require registration, powered or not unless you are visiting a national park. Don't know why the rules are written that way, maybe a federal requirement. IIRC No registration required in Caribbean countries. My 13 Y.O. rollup dink has never been registered nor was it's predecessor for 10 years before that. Been to many countries with it and never was questioned.
Hi Stormalong,

For Washington state -
It is my experience (meaning I have been called on it by the Dept of Fish & Wildlife) that if I am fishing or setting crab pots out of my dinghy - then it needs to be registered with the state. I have come close to getting a ticket on this one - so I just register my dinghy as a matter of course when I register the sailboat as well.

Don't know about other states ...

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Hi Stormalong,

For Washington state -
It is my experience (meaning I have been called on it by the Dept of Fish & Wildlife) that if I am fishing or setting crab pots out of my dinghy - then it needs to be registered with the state. I have come close to getting a ticket on this one - so I just register my dinghy as a matter of course when I register the sailboat as well.

Don't know about other states ...

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I don't do either and have never been approached by any kind of marine enforcement agency.
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This is not just an American concept, it is a concept unique to each US State. Not every state titles vessels. The title would only be necessary if you happen to live in a state that titles boats. More importantly, it would only be necessary to register the vessel in a State that requires a title.

Unfortunately, the OP is taking regional specific advise and attempting to generalize to the world.
Oregon has no registration for anything under 16 feet. Buying there and bringing to Washington is a pain as they require anything over 12 foot to be registered
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