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Old 14-05-2022, 07:15   #61
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Yes but calibre limits are quite common in legislation and they are easy to enforce. Hence it’s not surprising

In Ireland the change from a “
Ordinary license “ to a “ restricted license “ is largely calibre based for example and placed. A lot of handguns in the more difficult category as a result. ( this was precisely the intended effect of course )
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Pertinent law.

http://laws.bahamas.gov.bs/cms/image...earmsAct_1.pdf

The key point is that the weapon and the precise amount of ammunition is to be declared, locked away, not brought on shore and NOT USED.

I see no restriction as to caliber, rather the prohibited weapons and ammunition types are listed in Section 30.

If one must comply with such constraints, that inherently begs the question why would one bother to bring a weapon to the Bahamas if one is never allowed to ever make use of such device, basically it would be illegal to use such for its intended purpose?

Just saying.
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I’m Canadian so stupid question about guns expected.
Why would you need a gun in the Bahamas?
Shooting the fixed roulette tables won’t fix them.
I’ve watch the boarder TV show and some very angry Americans upset no handgun is allowed in Canada. I really don’t understand why you are not relieved. You just need a fishing rod here.
I’ve been all over Bahamas but it’s been a few years. Has there been a spike in crime in our commonwealth neighbour?
Considering that over 40000 death by firearms last year in USA, one can question the very idea of exporting this idea of firearm armed Americans else where in the world and in vacations in the Bahamas. If you believe that you need to be armed in Bahamas maybe you may as well forget to go there. In my country you would be refused entry with a handgun. By the way, When i planed to go bird hunting in USA, I was amazed by the conplications for just traveling with a 20 gage shotgun. An almost impossible task , so what would you expect traveling tp Bahamas?. And the real question is WHY would you need to cary a handgun there?
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Pertinent law.



http://laws.bahamas.gov.bs/cms/image...earmsAct_1.pdf



The key point is that the weapon and the precise amount of ammunition is to be declared, locked away, not brought on shore and NOT USED.



I see no restriction as to caliber, rather the prohibited weapons and ammunition types are listed in Section 30.



If one must comply with such constraints, that inherently begs the question why would one bother to bring a weapon to the Bahamas if one is never allowed to ever make use of such device, basically it would be illegal to use such for its intended purpose?



Just saying.


Yes but customs in the Bahamas in June 2021 changed the rules to introduce a calibre and number of firearms limit. That’s what the OP is on about. This presumably was done under a different different branch of the law and could even be done by ministerial order depending on the underlying customs legislation. There might not be any specific statue reference
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Considering that over 40000 death by firearms last year in USA, one can question the very idea of exporting this idea of firearm armed Americans else where in the world and in vacations in the Bahamas. If you believe that you need to be armed in Bahamas maybe you may as well forget to go there. In my country you would be refused entry with a handgun. By the way, When i planed to go bird hunting in USA, I was amazed by the conplications for just traveling with a 20 gage shotgun. An almost impossible task , so what would you expect traveling tp Bahamas?. And the real question is WHY would you need to cary a handgun there?
Maybe its not for there but for the travel to and around the Bahamas. The coasts off of some of the central american countries have seen better days. I'd rather have one and not need it than need one and not have it.
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Yes but customs in the Bahamas in June 2021 changed the rules to introduce a calibre and number of firearms limit. That’s what the OP is on about. This presumably was done under a different different branch of the law and could even be done by ministerial order depending on the underlying customs legislation. There might not be any specific statue reference
Geez, since one will need to declare the weapon(s) and ammunition to Customs of the Bahamas, just contact them directly for definitive guidance.

Customs Offices
Nassau
The Bahamas Customs Department
P. O. Box N 155
Nassau
New Providence
The Bahamas
Location – Headquarters – University Drive
Opening Hours: 9:00 am to 4:00 pm, Monday to Friday.
Tel. (242)604-3124, 604-3125
Fax. (242)325-7409

Email: customs@bahamas.gov.bs

Lynden Pindling International Airport 604-3277/3256/3271/3263

Arawak Container Port 604-3196/3184/3187/3174/3551

Prince George Dock 604-3341

Odyssey Aviation (FBO) 604-3352/3167

Harbour Office (P.G. Dock) 604-3340 through 3347

Gladstone Freight Terminal 604-3321/3318/3313/3318/3085

Jet Aviation (Executive Flight Support) 604-2336/2337/2338

Information Technology Unit 604-3004-7/10/11/13/14/36 or 604-3133/3157/3176



Abaco
Officer in Charge – Superintendent - Bradley Dorsett

Bahamas Customs

P.O. Box - AB-20178

Tel.: Main Office 699-4034 Email: MARSHHARBOURDOCK@BAHAMAS.GOV.BS

Tel.: Public dock 699-4034

Tel.: Airport 699-4021 Email: MARSHHARBOURAIRPORT@BAHAMAS.GOV.BS

Fax 367-4050

Officer in Charge – Customs/Revenue Officer I – Bridgette Russell-Chase

Treasure Cay Abaco Airport 699-4059 Email: TREASURECAYAIRPORT@BAHAMAS.GOV.BS

Fax 365-8603

Officer in Charge – Customs/Revenue Officer - Deidre Cox

Green Turtle Public Dock 699-4045 Email: GREENTURTLECAYDOCK@BAHAMAS.GOV.BS

Fax 365-4078

Spanish Cay Airport 699-4060

Andros
Officer in Charge – Customs/Revenue Officer I – Bradlena Williams

Congo Town 369-2640 Email: CONGOTOWNAIRPORT@BAHAMAS.GOV.BS

Fax 369-2608

Officer in Charge – Customs/Revenue Officer I – Dexter Bain

Fresh Creek 368-2030 Email: FRESHCREEKDOCK@BAHAMAS.GOV.BS

Fax 368-2086



Officer in Charge – Senior Customs/Revenue Officer – Philip Hield

San Andros 329-2140 Email: SANANDROSAIRPORT@BAHAMAS.GOV.BS

Fax 329-2544

Bimini
Officer in Charge – Senior Customs Officer – Perry Ferguson

Main Office & Public Dock 347-3100 Email: BIMINIAIRPORT@BAHAMAS.GOV.BS,

BIMINIDOCK@BAHAMAS.GOV.BS

South Bimini & Airport 347-3101

Fax 347-3466

Vibe 225-3831

Cat Cay 347-5011

Chubb Cay
Officer in Charge – Customs/Revenue Officer II – Enrique Rolle

Chubb Cay Airport 359-9020

Chubb Cay Marina 325-1490

Fax 325-7086

Cat Island
Officer in Charge – Senior Customs/Revenue Officer - Donnithorne Collie

New Bight Airport 342-2016 Email: CATISLANDCUSTOMS@BAHAMAS.GOV.BS

Fax 342-2041

Smith’s Bay Dock 342-2149

Smith’s Bay 342-2223

Vibe 225-6663

Fax 342-2150

Bennet’s Harbour on call at listed numbers

Author Town Dock on call at listed numbers

Eleuthera
Officer in Charge – Superintendent of Customs – Andre Thurston

Governor’s Harbour Dock 699-6100 through 6106

332-3193 Email: GOVERNORSHARBOURDOCK@BAHAMAS.GOV.BS

Governor’s Harbour vibe 225-8214

Fax 332-2730

Governor’s Harbour Airport 332-2341

Fax 332-2645

Officer in Charge – Senior Customs/Revenue Officer – Chantell Rolle

Rock Sound Airport 699-6123/24/25/27 Email: ROCKSOUNDDOCK@BAHAMAS.GOV.BS

699-6109/12

334-2183

Fax 334-2508

Half Moon Cay on call

Princess Cay on call

Davis Cay on call

Officer in Charge – Senior Customs/Revenue Officer - Lisa Pelecanos

North Eleuthera 699-6121 Email: NORTHELEUTHERAAIRPORT@BAHAMAS.GOV.BS

699-6117

Vibe 225-3775

Fax 335-1381

White Crown 335-1654

Officer in Charge – Customs/Revenue Officer I – Patrick Gilbert

Spanish Wells 699-6128 Email: SPANISHWELLSDOCK@BAHAMAS.GOV.BS

699-6129

Officer in Charge – Customs/Revenue Officer I – Randolph Curtis

Harbour Island 699-6122 Email: HARBOURISLANDDOCK@BAHAMAS.GOV.BS

699-6147

Fax 333-3602

Exuma
Officer in Charge – Senior Customs Officer/Revenue Officer – Ricardo Toote

Dock (Main Office) 336-2072 Email: EXUMADOCK@BAHAMAS.GOV.BS

Vibe 225-4519

Airport 345-0071 Email: EXUMAAIRPORT@BAHAMAS.GOV.BS

Fax 336-2243

Berry Islands
Officer in Charge – Senior Customs/Revenue Officer – Antanell Logan

Great Harbour Cay Email: GREATHARBOURCAYCUSTOMS@BAHAMAS.GOV.BS

Dock 367-8566

Vibe 225-2099

Fax 367-8567

Inagua
Officer in Charge – Senior Customs/Revenue Officer – Cordero Edgecombe

Phone 339-1254 Email: INAGUACUSTOMS@BAHAMAS.GOV.BS

Fax 339-1883

Vibe 225-2237

Long Island (Stella Maris)
Officer in Charge – Senior Customs/Revenue Officer – Sean Gomez

Phone 338-2012 Email: STELLAMARISDOCK@BAHAMAS.GOV.BS

Vibe 225-2038

Fax 338-2017

San Salvador
Officer in Charge – Senior Customs/Revenue – Chad Francis

Phone 331-2131 Email: SANSALVADORDOCK@BAHAMAS.GOV.BS

Vibe 226-8658

Fax 331-2431

Grand Bahama
Officer in Charge – Superintendent - Audrey Curry

Phone 602-9400 Email: custfreeportgeneral@bahamas.gov.bs

P.O. Box F-42484

C.A. Smith Complex

East Mall Drive

Lucayan International Airport 602-9546/ Email:

Freeport Container Port 602-9503

Lucayan Harbour 602-9491

Air Freight 602-9547

West End, Old Bahama Bay 602-9413/81 Email: CUSTOMSWESTEND@BAHAMAS.GOV.BS

Walkers Cay Dock 353-1365 Email: WALKERSCAY@BAHAMAS.GOV.BS,

Walkers Cay Cell 357-6656

Grand Cay 604-3396 Email: CUSTOMSGRANDCAY@BAHAMAS.GOV.BS
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Of Note:

PART III
PURCHASE AND POSSESSION OF CERTAIN
FIREARMS AND AMMUNITION
8. (1) This Part of this Act applies to all firearms as
defined in section 2 of this Act except the following
weapons and component parts thereof and accessories
thereto, namely —
(a) a revolver; FYI: a revolver is defined as a pistol
(b) a prohibited weapon;
(c) a smooth bore gun having a barrel not less than
twenty inches in length;
(d) an air gun, air rifle or pistol not being of a type
declared by the rules made under the provisions
of section 47 of this Act to be specially
dangerous:
Provided that subsections (7) and (8) of section 12
and section 13 of this Act shall apply to a revolver and to
ammunition therefor as they apply to any other firearm or
ammunition.
(2) This Part of this Act applies to all ammunition
as defined in section 2 of this Act, except for the following
articles, namely —
(a) cartridges containing five or more shots, none of
which exceeds nine twenty-fifths of an inch in
diameter;

(b) ammunition for an air gun or air rifle or air
pistol; and
(c) blank cartridges not exceeding one inch in
diameter.
(3) For the purposes of this section the diameter of a
cartridge shall be measured immediately in front of the rim
or cannelure of the base of the cartridge.
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If one must comply with such constraints, that inherently begs the question why would one bother to bring a weapon to the Bahamas if one is never allowed to ever make use of such device, basically it would be illegal to use such for its intended purpose?
My take is that it also affects those who might be traveling through, but also wish to visit the Bahamas en route. That is, you could have no expectation of using or even needing it there, but would still be prevented from having it locked up aboard.

A size limit of .308 for rifles leaves a decent number of available calibers, but if applied to handguns it would rule out many of the most popular calibers and almost act as a more complete ban. (In such a case the practical solution might be to simply get something in 5.7x28, if OP can afford the pricing.)
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Seems explicit to me directly from the customs website

https://www.bahamascustoms.gov.bs/resources/faqs/
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These regs do seem to have emanated from Bimini
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If, on the other hand one is just planning to go to the Bahamas and think it is a place full of third world thugs with machetes waiting to attack one's wife, I think I can safely speak for the vast majority of us in the Bahamas asking them to please stay home.
Now that remark is entirely unnecessary.

I merely posted official Bahamian crime homicide statistics, and advised the OP to just interpret the law as written.

Now I've had various nicknames, handles, appellations, and cognomens, and But you are making me out to be some kind of misanthrope.

I feel that's entirely inaccurate, and I wonder what I've said to give you that impression.

I don't hate my fellow man even if he is sometimes surly, judgmental, or even trying to steal, or cheat me out of my hard earned money, or boat. I figure that's just the simple thinking of a tiny minority.

But things have a way of escalating when your having a conversation online with a keyboard warrior hiding behind anonymity, it's easy to type something
without fully thinking it through.

I'm willing to overlook this personal attack as your obviously a little upset over the triggering word "guns", and saw this as an opportunity to share your memorization of the narrative you were taught as a child in school.

That's ok, I understand.

Unfortunately it really doesn't help the OP understand Bahamian law.
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Pertinent law.

http://laws.bahamas.gov.bs/cms/image...earmsAct_1.pdf

The key point is that the weapon and the precise amount of ammunition is to be declared, locked away, not brought on shore and NOT USED.

I see no restriction as to caliber, rather the prohibited weapons and ammunition types are listed in Section 30.

If one must comply with such constraints, that inherently begs the question why would one bother to bring a weapon to the Bahamas if one is never allowed to ever make use of such device, basically it would be illegal to use such for its intended purpose?

Just saying.
Handguns are illegal in the Bahamas for regular citizens and residents, as are rifles and automatic(or semi) weapons. It is possible to get a license for a shotgun for the purposes of hunting.

The constitution states a mandatory 10 year jail sentence for persons found in possession of an unlicensed /illegal firearm, although it is rarely given due to the prison being occupied way beyond capacity.
Not worth the trouble. 10 years in Fox Hill would not be much fun!
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Handguns are illegal in the Bahamas for regular citizens and residents, as are rifles and automatic(or semi) weapons. It is possible to get a license for a shotgun for the purposes of hunting.

The constitution states a mandatory 10 year jail sentence for persons found in possession of an unlicensed /illegal firearm, although it is rarely given due to the prison being occupied way beyond capacity.
Not worth the trouble. 10 years in Fox Hill would not be much fun!
This thread is about visiting cruisers, for whom it is 100% legal to be armed aboard their private vessel when conforming to the rules.

The reason many countries have more restrictions for handguns is that they are highly concealable and for that reason thought to be popular amongst criminals.

[sarcasm] As the Bahamas is completely safe and nobody will ever board you with the intent to do you or your family and friends harm, it is just fine that use of the handgun is prohibited, because it will never be needed.[/sarcasm]

Remember that (for the good guys) the purpose of the handgun is to win time to get to your long gun.
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This thread is about visiting cruisers, for whom it is 100% legal to be armed aboard their private vessel when conforming to the rules.

The reason many countries have more restrictions for handguns is that they are highly concealable and for that reason thought to be popular amongst criminals.

[sarcasm] As the Bahamas is completely safe and nobody will ever board you with the intent to do you or your family and friends harm, it is just fine that use of the handgun is prohibited, because it will never be needed.[/sarcasm]

Remember that (for the good guys) the purpose of the handgun is to win time to get to your long gun.


Err would that be the handgun youre not allowed to use in any way while in Bahamian waters. Get boarded , wave gun around , get arrested ,prosecuted and possibly jail time

One needs to separate the carry /possession rules from the use rules. Many countries have extremely robust laws where you “ use” or threaten to “ use “ a firearm in a confrontational situation . Even when “ castle “ laws exist they typically do not extend to a boat.

A gun locked up in a gun safe isn’t a lot of use as the bad guy comes through the companionway.

By all means Investigate the legal rules applicable to your desire to import firearms into the Bahamas. Don’t extend that to justify firearms on board.
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Having lived in the Bahamas mostly since the mid 90s and worked predominantly in the yacht charter/delivery/ maintenance and marina business I can assure you that the need for a gun on board in that country is slim to none, unless as someone suggested that you use the butt to put a Mahi out of its misery.
Now if you are going elsewhere where you feel a gun is warranted on board then fair enough, I guess. I think if you ever had to or decided to use one while in the Bahamas it would open up a very unstable can of worms. Best to keep them locked far away or not carry them at all.
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