Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 28-08-2018, 09:30   #1
Registered User
 
Jammer's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,397
Areas where a greywater tank is required

I note that there are some areas where discharge of greywater (from shower or sink drains) is prohibited. I believe this includes some areas in California, and parts of the Dry Tortugas. I understand the Panama Canal transit includes a no-discharge zone but it is unclear to me whether this extends to greywater.


I have some questions:


  1. Is it sufficient compliance to close off seacocks and just accumulate water in the sink basin until out of the area? Or must a greywater holding tank be fitted?
  2. Are there other notable areas with such restrictions?
  3. Is the situation stable, or does the regulatory climate appear to be deteriorating such that more areas will have rules like this?
__________________

Jammer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-08-2018, 11:13   #2
Registered User
 
denverd0n's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 4,583
Images: 6
Re: Areas where a greywater tank is required

No, it doesn't include parts of the Dry Tortugas. The Dry Tortugas are a "no discharge zone," but that refers to black water discharge. You can drain your sink overboard all you want. I don't know of anywhere that you are not allowed to drain your sink, your bilge (so long as there's no oil in it), your shower, and so on overboard.
__________________

denverd0n is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-08-2018, 11:32   #3
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Southern California
Boat: Catalina 320
Posts: 720
Re: Areas where a greywater tank is required

I'm not aware of any areas here that prohibit gray water discharge into ocean waters. The most restrictive harbor is Avalon where they put a dye tablet in the black tank. On the other hand a brightwork detailer I know was tongue lashed and almost handcuffed by deputy Fife of the harbor patrol last week for getting sanding dust in the water.
Calif.Ted is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-08-2018, 12:18   #4
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Out cruising/ St. Augustine
Boat: Bruckmann 50
Posts: 768
Re: Areas where a greywater tank is required

There is a marina on Marco Island Florida that prohibits showers on the boat but I have never seen any other graywater restriction
jkleins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-08-2018, 12:40   #5
Registered User
 
Jammer's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,397
Re: Areas where a greywater tank is required

Quote:
Originally Posted by denverd0n View Post
No, it doesn't include parts of the Dry Tortugas. The Dry Tortugas are a "no discharge zone," but that refers to black water discharge.

The RNA covers approximately half the area:


https://www.nps.gov/drto/planyourvis...ersion%202.pdf


"Fish or chumming materials used for fishing, water generated by routine vessel operations such as greywater and deckwash, and uncontaminated bilge water are permitted,except in the RNA, where discharge materials of any kind are prohibited (outside of cooling water or engine exhaust)."

Jammer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-08-2018, 17:03   #6
Registered User
 
denverd0n's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 4,583
Images: 6
Re: Areas where a greywater tank is required

Okay. My mistake. There are some areas where even sink water discharge is prohibited. I did not know that.


I'm going to guess, though, that such areas are EXTREMELY specific and limited. Honestly, I would not worry about putting a tank on my boat to catch grey-water. I'll have to check the regs a bit more closely in the future, obviously, but having done that, I would just avoid anchoring in the few, specific areas where I can't let my sink drain.
denverd0n is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-08-2018, 17:30   #7
cruiser

Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Pangaea
Posts: 10,856
Re: Areas where a greywater tank is required

Turkey
Kenomac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-08-2018, 17:57   #8
Registered User

Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Bellingham
Boat: Outbound 44
Posts: 8,248
Re: Areas where a greywater tank is required

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jammer View Post
... I understand the Panama Canal transit includes a no-discharge zone but it is unclear to me whether this extends to greywater.
...
That applies to blackwater, not greywater. Lake Gatun in the middle of the Canal is the water supply for Panama City.
Paul L is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-08-2018, 23:34   #9
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Australia
Boat: Island Packet 40
Posts: 3,572
Images: 7
Re: Areas where a greywater tank is required

Ran into a no discharge estuary on the east coast of Australia where there were oyster farms and there had been a food poisoning scare, the no discharge included everything and as severe and dogmatic as the marine patrol officer was I even cleaned my teeth before breathing over the side just in case.
RaymondR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-08-2018, 01:22   #10
Registered User
 
Sojourner's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: On the boat!
Boat: SY Wake: 53' Amel Super Maramu
Posts: 861
Re: Areas where a greywater tank is required

From what I understand Turkey is the only place that now has a law against greywater discharge for all vessels, but it is not enforced. I mean, how could it be?? I'm fairly sure it's only enforced on boats large enough where that could be an option, but even on my 53 footer, there ain't no way I could tank that...
__________________
3 cats, 3 queers, endless wake, endless love!
https://www.facebook.com/anendlesswake/
https://anendlesswake.com/
Sojourner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-01-2019, 09:58   #11
Registered User
 
Jammer's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,397
Re: Areas where a greywater tank is required

Apparently Lake Champlain also prohibits discharge from showers and sinks.


https://www.lakechamplaincommittee.o...ing_Manual.pdf - pages 6-7


There is also a requirement to "remove and store" any hoses connecting the sewage system to a thru-hull, though this does not appear to apply to sink/shower systems.
Jammer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-01-2019, 10:11   #12
Registered User
 
AnglaisInHull's Avatar

Join Date: May 2015
Location: Sailing Lake Ontario
Boat: Mirage 35
Posts: 794
Re: Areas where a greywater tank is required

That last one is interesting - Iíve sailed on Lake Champlain a few times and have never seen a boat with a grey water holding tank.
__________________

__________________
My boat is like me. People look, and say "... pretty good shape ... for its age ..."
AnglaisInHull is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
water

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Greywater Treatment sailmania Plumbing Systems and Fixtures 3 05-06-2013 06:46
Internet at sea and in remote areas Celestialsailor Marine Electronics 42 24-03-2009 15:04
Chain Locker Drain Into Greywater Tank James S Plumbing Systems and Fixtures 14 21-03-2009 09:15
How to fill areas of bilge with epoxy ? bobfnbw Construction, Maintenance & Refit 17 15-02-2009 17:36
CE classification - "areas" vacendak Construction, Maintenance & Refit 6 22-10-2007 02:57

Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 13:27.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.