Originally Posted by GuyFromTheNorth
We originally signed our permit in 2019 to expire on July 1st, about 10 months total. Now due to the current
status of the world the Erie canal won't be open at least until Aug 10th which puts it at over a month passed our permit expiry.
We know you can get UP to one year on a permit so we had hoped to get ours amended which would give us enough time to get home (september) but was told both by Norfolk and Baltimore
offices they won't do that. I've also been told by one that if we wait 14 days after it expires we can get a new one and then the other office said no we need to leave the country and wait 14 days then re-enter and get a new permit. Unfortunately there are no countries to leave TO other than the one we are trying desperately to get to. Both offices swear their interpretation is correct meanwhile they conflict with each other.
Anyone having these issues? I'm hoping someone up top realizes and gives us all a grace period to get home. Believe me there's nowhere I'd rather be right now than in my side of Lale Huron.
Indeed you do need to leave the USA for 14 days, return on or after the 15th day, and must return with proof that you have arrived from a foreign port or place. That means you can't just go out to international waters and then float back into USA territorial waters. Find a Canadian port and return. As an potential alternative, there are also Saint-Pierre and Miquelon which are the last piece of French territory in North America.
"a cruising permit will be renewed only if at least 15 days have elapsed since the previous permit expired or was surrendered; and the vessel arrives in the U.S. from a foreign port or place. Traveling outside U.S. waters while a cruising permit is effective does not satisfy the 15-day requirement."
It is critical to note that the 14 days away, 15 days before returning, clock sets upon either when you surrendered the permit document and departed the USA, or you have left the USA before it expires and then let is lapse / expire while out of country and then return on or after the 15th day after its expiration date.
You have had a long "grace period" to return to Canada [near on one year] and they do not have discretionary capacity to extend beyond the statutory limits. You had best be on your way, July 1st is coming fast.
The USA / Canadian border will remain closed to non-essential travel until AT LEAST July 21. As a Canadian citizen you will be allowed to reenter your country, but will not be permitted to return to the USA until the border reopens to non-essential travel.
Also note that there are travel restrictions between provinces in Canada.
For example, Newfoundland
, restricts entry to residents of the province so if you are not a Newfie, I suspect that you may be able to arrive at a port but not make landfall. Internal Canadian travel restrictions need to be assessed in addition to Getting Out of Dodge of the USA. Ditto as to entering French Territory Islands as an alternative.
As to New Brunswick, this appears to be the scope
of their restrictions.
"Travelling into New Brunswick
Everyone entering New Brunswick at any point of entry, including airports, must stop when instructed to do so by a peace officer and answer any questions as required to support the intent of the requirements of the Chief Medical
Officer of Health
Nearly all of New Brunswick’s COVID-19 cases have been traced back to travel and one of the steps we have taken has been to control access at our borders.
New Brunswick residents no longer need to self-isolate when returning from work
in another Canadian province or territory.
People living in other parts
of Canada who are symptom-free are now allowed to visit their family
members in New Brunswick, but those visitors must self-isolate for the first 14 days of each visit.
People living in other parts
of Canada who are symptom-free and who own property in New Brunswick can now visit to stay there, but they must self-isolate for the first 14 days of each visit.
Recent cases illustrate the importance of limiting non-essential travel across our borders.
We’re limiting non-essential visits into our province and we’re requiring those who have made visits outside of the province for personal reasons to self-isolate for 14 days. This appears to mean that unless you are an essential traveller, a resident of NB, or own property in NB, that you can't enter NB. Similar to Nfl.
These measures support the efforts of the Chief Medical
Officer of Health
and are regularly reviewed with the all-party cabinet committee and cabinet.
Early action limited the spread. We’re following health advice about opening our borders to necessary travel only.
Everyone has a role to play in following the advice and being vigilant. Your actions impact yourself and others in the community."
As to Nova Scotia
The Province of Nova Scotia has declared a state of emergency
Anyone entering the province must self-isolate for 14 days, even if you are not experiencing symptoms.
People can gather in groups of up to 10 without physical distancing. People in a group are not required to be exclusive but they are strongly encouraged to maintain a consistent group.
Gatherings of up to 50 are allowed but people must observe physical distancing of two metres or six feet.
Travel from within Canada (Domestic):
No one requires permission to travel to Nova Scotia, but anyone who is entering the province must immediately self-isolate for 14 days upon arrival. You can familiarize yourself with the self-isolation requirements here: https://novascotia.ca/coronavirus/wh...t-order-means/
If you are travelling through other Canadian provinces on your way to Nova Scotia, it is strongly recommended to reach out to those provinces directly with any border-specific questions prior to beginning travel.
Travel within Nova Scotia (Local):
As more businesses, organizations, services and public spaces reopen, Nova Scotians need to work
together to prevent the spread of COVID-19 and help keep everyone safe. Nova Scotians are asked to make careful and informed decisions about the travel they engage in to help prevent further spread of COVID-19. You should consider the following measures when travelling within the province:
follow social distancing and hygiene guidelines during all activities
consult with businesses in advance as to their health and safety
observe physical distancing of two metres or six feet when gathering in groups of up to 50. Note: People can gather in groups of up to 10 without physical distancing. People in a group are not required to be exclusive but they are strongly encouraged to maintain a consistent group.
keep your hands clean (if you have hand sanitizer, bring it with you)
follow cough and sneeze etiquette
consider wearing a non-medical mask
stay home if you’re feeling sick.
When will the 14-day self-isolation requirement be lifted?
There has been no date set for the removal
of the 14-day self-isolation requirement. As the situation continues to evolve, all end-dates for restrictions are considered fluid and could be lifted or extended at any time.
How do I self-isolate? Can I buy groceries?
Self-isolation means you go directly to the place where you will isolate, without delay, and stay there for 14 days from the date you arrived. You must arrange for the necessities of life (e.g. food
, medications, cleaning
supplies) to be delivered to your place of isolation.
Instructions on how to self-isolate can be found here: https://novascotia.ca/coronavirus/do...vellers-EN.pdf
What if I am travelling through Nova Scotia to get to another province. Do I need to self-isolate?
You can drive through Nova Scotia, but you must self-isolate for the length of time that you are in the province. This means you cannot stop at a grocery store, a restaurant to pick up food
, etc. It is best that you check with other provinces before entering to learn about any restrictions they have in place that may impact your travel.
Do I need to wear a mask while travelling in Nova Scotia?
According to the Public Health Agency of Canada, wearing a homemade non-medical mask/facial covering in the community is recommended for periods of time when it is not possible to consistently maintain a 2-metre physical distance from others, particularly in crowded public settings, such as:
Some businesses in Nova Scotia require masks/face covering to enter their store/office/facility. Please check with businesses directly before beginning your trip.
Effective April 20, 2020, all air passengers are required to have a non-medical mask or face covering to cover their mouth and nose during travel to and from Canadian airports.
Passengers travelling by rail, motor
carrier/bus or marine
transportation are also strongly encouraged to wear non-medical masks or face coverings as much as possible.