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Rustic Charm · 09-03-2015, 01:33

Well, I decided to start a whole new thread to do with the COLREGS as I couldn't find a specific post just on the 'rules of the road'

for boats.

Recently on the following thread

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...-142297-9.html

The topic came up (

yeah I know I brought it up) of 'right of way', which I'd like to discuss because according to some 'there is no right of way on the water'?

ummm.

But, in recently reading the COLREGS I thought there's quite a few 'questions ' that would be interesting to parse.

I'm also quite conscious that there are a number of extremely knowledgable mariners out there who the rest of us can learn from. (Acknowledgement to Dockhead who raised the prospect of such a thread but I'm sorry Dockhead, I couldn't wait

)

Rustic Charm · 09-03-2015, 01:34

So, to start this thread off, Topic number one (of many hopefully

)

The Right of Way rule? Who has Right of Way

**Ex-Calif** · 09-03-2015, 01:51

colregs - Google Search

Over 900 hits for Colregs on CF.

But OK let's do another one - never hurts.

However, no matter how knowledgeable anyone is, it won't stand up in court to say, "But Dockhead said...?"

If one really wants something authoritative - this might help - Amazon.com: Farwell's Rules of the Nautical Road (9781591140085): Craig H. Allen: Books

Or

Amazon.com: A Guide to the Collision Avoidance Rules, Seventh Edition (9780080971704): A. N. Cockcroft, J. N. F. Lameijer: Books

Duct Tape · 09-03-2015, 02:17

No vessel ever has a " right of way ". At no point in the entire colregs is " right of way " ever mentioned. You have " stand on " and " give way " vessels. A " stand on vessel" must hold its course and speed up until such a point avoiding action MUST be taken to avoid a collision. In a collision BOTH vessels are to blame with the "give way" vessel apportioned a greater share of that blame depending on circumstances...

Rustic Charm · 09-03-2015, 02:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ex-Calif

colregs - Google Search

Over 900 hits for Colregs on CF.

But OK let's do another one - never hurts.

However, no matter how knowledgeable anyone is, it won't stand up in court to say, "But Dockhead said...?"

If one really wants something authoritative - this might help - Amazon.com: Farwell's Rules of the Nautical Road (9781591140085): Craig H. Allen: Books

Or

Amazon.com: A Guide to the Collision Avoidance Rules, Seventh Edition (9780080971704): A. N. Cockcroft, J. N. F. Lameijer: Books

I found the 'hits' bu not a single thread just on the COLREGS. Though I admit I'm not very good with the search engine. But it seemed to bring up ANY post with the words COLREGS a in them. That's why I started a new exclusive thread. Which I hope to change the topic when one gets tired.

Rustic Charm · 09-03-2015, 02:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duct Tape

No vessel ever has a " right of way ". At no point in the entire colregs is " right of way " ever mentioned. You have " stand on " and " give way " vessels. A " stand on vessel" must hold its course and speed up until such a point avoiding action MUST be taken to avoid a collision. In a collision BOTH vessels are to blame with the "give way" vessel apportioned a greater share of that blame depending on circumstances...

I think your wrong!

But I'll wait for others to way in before I add my reasonng.

I'd love to add a 'vote' to see how many agree with you, but I don't know how.

**StuM** · 09-03-2015, 02:48

[QUOTE=Rustic Charm;1769623]I think your wrong!

[QUOTE]

And I think you're wrong.

Duct Tape is absolutely correct for waters covered by ColRegs.

Lodesman · 09-03-2015, 03:19

"Right of way" is not specifically mentioned in the International Colregs, but as a concept one could argue that it exists within them. "Right of way" is described in the US Inland Rules.

Rustic Charm · 09-03-2015, 03:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rustic Charm

So, to start this thread off, Topic number one (of many hopefully

)

The Right of Way rule? Who has Right of Way

The pole by the way has the ability to answer more than one.

Duct Tape · 09-03-2015, 03:46

The use of the term " right of way" was specifically excluded from the ColRegs.

US Inland rules are not governed by ColRegs as per Rule 1.

Reefmagnet · 09-03-2015, 04:10

Rules of the road:

Might vs right. If it's bigger 'un me I give way; if it's smaller I plow on. If it's night and I can't tell I stop on red and go on green.

Maine Sail · 09-03-2015, 04:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lodesman

"Right of way" is not specifically mentioned in the International Colregs, but as a concept one could argue that it exists within them. "Right of way" is described in the US Inland Rules.

Bingo...

Duct Tape · 09-03-2015, 05:03

Because Rule 17b places a duty on the " stand on " vessel to avoid a collision it cannot be said to have a " right of way".
As I Said above, local authorities can make rules and word them any way they choose, I am only talking about International ColRegs.

As for Reefmagnet: you are a danger to yourself and more importantly others at sea. Learn the rules!

**carstenb** · 09-03-2015, 05:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rustic Charm

I found the 'hits' bu not a single thread just on the COLREGS. Though I admit I'm not very good with the search engine. But it seemed to bring up ANY post with the words COLREGS a in them. That's why I started a new exclusive thread. Which I hope to change the topic when one gets tired.

you can try testing yourself - the answers are further down in the thread

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...lf-140288.html