Cruisers Forum
 

Go Back   Cruisers & Sailing Forums > Engineering & Systems > Construction, Maintenance & Refit
Cruiser Wiki Click Here to Login
Register Vendors FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Log in

Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 20-05-2013, 15:16   #16
Moderator Emeritus
 
roverhi's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Carlsbad, CA
Boat: 1976 Sabre 28-2
Posts: 7,505
Send a message via Yahoo to roverhi
Re: X-Ray Chainplates (While on Boat) in Florida

The problem with glassed in plates is they are the perfect medium for crevice corrosion. Any water that gets in will be held there in a limited oxygen environment. Guess what, that is what causes crevice corrosion. Since they are glassed in, they cannot be removed and inspected. Most chainplates fail at the area that's in the deck because of stagnant water in a limited Oxygen environment. When the plates are glassed in, the entire chain plate from the deck on down is in an oxygen deprived environment just waiting for a little salt water to blossom into crevice corrosion. Since you can't get at your chain plates to inspect, you've no idea if they are in good condition or ready to break at the next gust of wind. If your boat is a leaky teaky, you're living on borrowed time with usury interest rates. They are notorious for crevice corrosion from low grade stainless hardware. Add service in the tropics and crevice corrosion is greatly accelerated.

The chain plates on my 43 year old boat are out in the open with no sign of any water intrusion and were in remarkably good shape after all that time. A few did have some minor crevice corrosion in the deck interstice which I felt pretty good about. That is until I talked with a nationally recognized rigger, He said those small areas of pitting were just the visible corrosion and that the corrosion was probably spider webbing out in microscopic cracks that would cause the plate to fracture sooner than later.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Sailing Partner View Post
I have a 41' sailboat built in 1977 with four forward glassed in chain plates and has been in sailing service the entire time without chain plate mishap. Needless to say it has left the slip and returned safely numerous times. This factual experience overrides your ill advised opinion.
__________________
Peter O.
'Ae'a, Pearson 35
'Ms American Pie', Sabre 28 Mark II
roverhi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-05-2013, 17:03   #17
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Burnt Store Marina, Punta Gorda FL
Boat: Ta Chiao CT 41
Posts: 23
Re: X-Ray Chainplates (While on Boat) in Florida

We are aware of the risk involved with glassed in chain plates, hence the reason for enquiring about the possibility of having them x-rayed versus the expense of having them exposed and tested the usual method. We never expected to be told that one would never leave the slip with glassed in chain plates, nor to be mini lectured on how chain plates quickly degrade in an oxygen deprived, marine environment.

Regardless, thank you for the information.
__________________
SeaDoc and his Prairie Girl
Sailing Partner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-05-2013, 17:12   #18
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Burnt Store Marina, Punta Gorda FL
Boat: Ta Chiao CT 41
Posts: 23
Re: X-Ray Chainplates (While on Boat) in Florida

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guy View Post
You may not want X rays, perhaps ultra sonic or MRI. The Aviation world has all kinds of mobil guy's running around doing testing.
Thanks Guy, Your suggestions are very helpful. We have had a professional survey the rigging last week. Given he couldn't inspect the forward chain plates he suggested removing them, at great expense. We are looking into alternatives before committing to the invasive work that would need to be done. Either way, they will be inspected and replaced if need be.
__________________
SeaDoc and his Prairie Girl
Sailing Partner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-05-2013, 17:12   #19
Registered User

Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Oregon
Boat: Seafarer36c
Posts: 5,563
Re: X-Ray Chainplates (While on Boat) in Florida

But that is what you get here. Don't take it personaly.
model 10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-05-2013, 00:55   #20
Registered User

Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: sydney, australia
Boat: 38 roberts ketch
Posts: 1,309
Images: 3
Re: X-Ray Chainplates (While on Boat) in Florida

cautionary tale - was cleaning some old paint off my chainplates on the weekend, noticed a loose bolt, reached down to see if it would turn, the head of the bolt came off in my fingers - gotta love stainless steel, it looks perfect til it breaks...
charliehows is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-05-2013, 01:10   #21
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Montegut LA.
Boat: Now we need to get her to Louisiana !! she's ours
Posts: 3,421
Re: X-Ray Chainplates (While on Boat) in Florida

My old daddy always said " when in doubt , Take it out !" ya can't tell if ya can't see! And to me, I would think about the expense if getting a new mast and rigging if the forward chain plates let go! Just my 2 cents
__________________
Bob and Connie
bobconnie is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
florida


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
X-Ray Testing of Standing Rigging cburger Construction, Maintenance & Refit 7 12-08-2010 05:04
South Florida to Bimini in 28' Sea Ray? esquire1 Atlantic & the Caribbean 7 20-08-2009 20:21
New Cruiser Ray rwpotter Meets & Greets 11 04-09-2008 10:28
new member - 44 sea ray Odyssey Meets & Greets 3 10-07-2008 12:13
LEAK ON SEA RAY bullseye Meets & Greets 3 01-08-2007 18:22

Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 18:49.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.